@samoth said:

Just sayin' THE DONKEYS WON'T GET THEM.

I'll list the WR that went high later. But- in the all time crackhead trade Al Davis dumped Randy Moss for a 4th rounder. The Browns got a third rounder and a bunch of STers and spot starters for Edwards. So ROTFLOL, some team's gonna give up TWO first round picks for Marshall + a player? No way in hell.

Recent top 10 wr picks Heyward-Bey (another reason Al Davis should be declared legally dead), Crabtree, Calvin Johnson, Ted Ginn, Braylon Edwards, Mike Williams. You think the Lions would trade Johnson for Marshall straight up? Uh, nope. So there's your ceiling, and I'm willing to bet the floor is way lower.

@hoorta said:

Some team that thinks they're on the SB cusp and in need of a wr may offer a low first rounder for Marshall, but that will be the extent of it.

Cowboys traded the bank for Roy Williams. Marshall is far more talented and the Broncos could easily hold out for a truckload of picks.

@hoorta said:

Some team that thinks they're on the SB cusp and in need of a wr may offer a low first rounder for Marshall, but that will be the extent of it.

I'm just basing it off of Cutler's deal that McDaniels somehow pulled out of his ass. He got Chicago to radically overpay for Cutler, and I expect him to try and get the same deal for Marshall. Do I expect anyone to go for it? Well, that's a different story.

And I believe there are WR's that are worth that. I fully believe that it's the WR that makes the QB, not the other way around. Ultimately, the QB is completely dependant on the WR to actually catch the ball that is thrown to him.

The Paul Warfield trade was a joke.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Cutler (+2009 5th Rd. (140th))

2009- 1st Rd. (18th)

2010- 1st Rd. (10th/11th)

2010- 3rd Rd. (74th/75th)

Kyle Orton (Starting QB for CHI, 4th Round pick (106th))

Marshall

2010- 1st Rd. (7th)

2011- 1st Rd. (TBD, hopefully 32nd, probably >17th)

2010- 5th Rd. (135th) (They are missing a 2010 5th)

Mohamed Massaquoi (starting WR for CLE, 2nd Round pick (50th))

All in all, I doubt anything will happen.

Please- surely you jest. The Browns traded Paul Warfield for a high first rounder. There's not a WR who ever played in the NFL, and you can count Jerry Rice in that statement- that's worth a top 10 pick, another first rounder + a player. That's franchise qb fodder, not a freaking WR!

Some team that thinks they're on the SB cusp and in need of a wr may offer a low first rounder for Marshall, but that will be the extent of it.

@gips said:

i'd much rather have a douchbag, all pro wide receiver who can BANG on the field than a good character, workhorse, marginally skilled, back up QB who most likely does not have the poise/self confidence required to lead his team to the pinnacle..

tell me your post is a satire..

Marshall is worth much more than Cutler. They've been together since they were drafted. There was always speculation on who made who better, but I think that matter's been settled this year. Cutler gets traded, Marshall has probably his best season, and earns his second consecutive Pro Bowl nod. Cutler, on the other hand, has his worst statistical year and becomes the scapegoat for Chicago's less-than-spectcular season.

If McDaniels can get that deal for Cutler, imagine what he could get for Marshall. Granted, Cutler was coming off of his best season to date in 2008. But Marshall is coming off of his best season this year, as well. I'd imagine the deal would have to be something similar to Cutler's.

Here's a breakdown of the Cutler deal, and the deal I imagine would have to be in order for Marshall, if Cutler's deal is any indication:

Cutler (+2009 5th Rd. (140th))

2009- 1st Rd. (18th)

2010- 1st Rd. (10th/11th)

2010- 3rd Rd. (74th/75th)

Kyle Orton (Starting QB for CHI, 4th Round pick (106th))

Marshall

2010- 1st Rd. (7th)

2011- 1st Rd. (TBD, hopefully 32nd, probably >17th)

2010- 5th Rd. (135th) (They are missing a 2010 5th)

Mohamed Massaquoi (starting WR for CLE, 2nd Round pick (50th))

Now, I don't see this happening. Not in the least. I think, for one, Holmgren/Heckert wouldn't write off on it. Secondly, I don't see Marshall garnering that much in terms of a trade.

Marshall would be a welcome addition in Cleveland, I can tell you that much. He's earned his nickname, he truly is a "beast". But his off-the-field problems would definitely be an influencing factor in Mangini's mind, and what we would have to sacrifice to get him would be a factor in Holmgren's/ Heckert's mind.

All in all, I doubt anything will happen.

One bad apple does not necessarily spoil the bunch, but in reality i don't see Marshall as a Mangini guy.

Zombo said:

Makes no sense at all. Not one iota.

Marshall's not going anywhere.

Zombo

--But if he did ... it would be for a whole lot more than Brady Quinn.

Quinn was IFFY????..

I must have missed those good games

@hoorta said:

LOL, he's a big meanie. Dude, what is Quinn 12 years old?

+1, ESPN actually get people to pay money to read this BS?

Finally, I doubt Holmgren would be that mean to Quinn. Sending a Browns fan to Denver would be like exile to Siberia.

@theclevelandsound said:

I dont have insider so if someone who does could post it, that would be great.

The plane should already be on the runway with Quinn and his backs packed.....

The Broncos would be out of their mind (stupid) to do this one......I'm hoping...

@cambridgeho said:

Of course he won't wonder who is going to throw him the ball.

I would take the guy. Sure, he's a bit of a egghead, but that doesn't bother me as much as it does some.

I think players around the league are beginning to understand the league doesn't mess around with guys who screw up, so i think most players understand where the butter for the bread comes from and are beginning to watch their P's & Q's.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

YES!!! that is awesome i said that the other day and its true

quinn and a third maybe both for Marshall. You absolutly can not go into next year with mossiq. as our number one or a draft pick as our one.

Doing so WILL hinder these young recievers no matter how good the rest of the offense is put together. Pull the f%%%%ing trigger then look towards o-line.

@dawgpound3 said:

If I was Heckert

3rd Round Pick

Shaun Rogers

Brady Quinn

For Marshall and a 2nd round pick.

I think getting Marshall would be great. Why would Denver want Quinn who cannot play and has done nothing? To back up Orton?? Or Rogers who is losing value by the minute.

They may be able to get Marshall for second and one of those two. Or for a first which I would not do considering it is the seven pick

@floridabrownsfan said:

Someone just shoot me if that happens

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Al Davis loves big armed QB's. Mangini is a big guy who obviously likes food. In-N-Out burgers are nowhere to be found in Cleveland. Rob Ryan looks like "The Dude". "The Dude" loves White Russians. Al Davis knows this, being a Coen brothers fanatic.

Therefore, Al Davis offers Mangini something he cannot find in Ohio and Ryan something that he loves to drink, and in return Mangini ships off DA to somewhere where he'll be more appreciated.

Expect to see this on ESPN INsider tomorrow.

Very funny.

Seriously though....I've often thought that if there was one place that you could possibly ship DA off to, it would be Oakland.

McDaniels is in love with Quinn and we'd be on the better end of a Quinn-Brandon Marshall trade unless he got arrested before reporting.

LET'S NOT FORGET...

Brandon Marshall had off-the-field troubles in Denver BEFORE McDaniels ever showed up. Has everyone forgotten the "I slipped on a McDonald's hamburger wrapper and put my arm through a TV" alibi?

@alendor said:

using the same rules you could say fitzgerald for DA. but we all know thats not gonna happen.

DA for 6 In-N-Out Double Double's and a White Russian.

Al Davis loves big armed QB's. Mangini is a big guy who obviously likes food. In-N-Out burgers are nowhere to be found in Cleveland. Rob Ryan looks like "The Dude". "The Dude" loves White Russians. Al Davis knows this, being a Coen brothers fanatic.

Therefore, Al Davis offers Mangini something he cannot find in Ohio and Ryan something that he loves to drink, and in return Mangini ships off DA to somewhere where he'll be more appreciated.

Expect to see this on ESPN INsider tomorrow.

using the same rules you could say fitzgerald for DA. but we all know thats not gonna happen.

@alendor said:

That and Josh McDaniel's apparent interest in Quinn before last year's draft. Both players stocks have dropped dramatically though from last year. I don't think Quinn would start over Orton. I just don't see why Denver would do this swap without Cleveland throwing in a draft pick. The rest of the league can't be so scared of Marshall that they won't offer more than Brady. VERY unlikely.

@alendor said:

Well, Holmgren doesn't like Quinn. That's a start.