@gips said:

While the coaching can always get better, I'll blame Ray Lewis, Ed Reed and Terrelle Suggs for scoring TDs on the strikes DA pitched them. Not only does DA throw alot of INTs but it seems like a high percentage of his go for TDs that KILL us in tight ball games.

DA has ALWAYS thrown alot of INTs regardles of the level or coaches. If you have more than 20 starts to your name - you shouldn't be looking MORE like a rookie than you did in starts number 4 and 5. How come Quinn knew enough not to throw any INTs in his first 8 quarters of starting? Did Quinn have better coaching in Cleveland than DA? No. It's the same staff. He's just more intelligent on the field and he looks alot more accurate.

When Edwards dropped 3 or 4 passes vrs Buffalo - I didn't panic nearly as much as i would have if he did this with DA because I knew all of the accurate throws weren't going to be used up. Turns out, Edwards had the most receptions he's had in any game this season even though he had the drops.

- Tom F.

@wpb-dawg-fan said:

WK   Comp   Att   Pct   Yds   Avg   TD   Int   Rate 
1     29    37    78.4  281   7.6    3    0   125.3
2     29    38    76.3  287   7.6    3    0   123.5
3     29    45    64.4  299   6.6    1    2    72.4
4     22    35    62.9  270   7.7    2    1    93.8
5     16    25    64.0  190   7.6    0    1    70.4
6     23    35    65.7  269   7.7    2    2    84.1
7     19    27    70.4  177   6.6    0    2    57.2
8     16    29    55.2  218   7.5    1    1    76.5
9     Bye
10    19    31    61.3  180   5.8    1    2    61.2
11    29    49    59.2  328   6.7    1    1    77.6
12    19    43    44.2  254   5.9    4    0    94.5
13    26    46    56.5  364   7.9    2    3    69.5
14    15    29    51.7  193   6.7    1    2    55.7
15    25    42    59.5  284   6.8    1    1    77.9
16     1     3    33.3   15   5.0    0    0    50.7
17     5    10    50.0  125  12.5    1    0   129.2
TOT: 322   524    61.5 3,734  7.1   23   18    83.3

Go ahead....guess!

I know the completion % is a bit high...but on the whole...this is the type of year I think you can expect from DA as a norm....Big games followed by crap games....but always turnovers mixed with the TD's.

That would be Jeff George. I can see DA's career turning out to be somewhat like that of George. Could be worse....look at McMahon's career.......it was shit but "he" won a super bowl.

@sturim said:

He is tall..so he can easily put the angel on top of the Christmas tree

@choco said:

Except Favre is successful and by this implication I dont think he means favre.....

Garcia?

@wpb-dawg-fan said:

WK   Comp   Att   Pct   Yds   Avg   TD   Int   Rate 
1     29    37    78.4  281   7.6    3    0   125.3
2     29    38    76.3  287   7.6    3    0   123.5
3     29    45    64.4  299   6.6    1    2    72.4
4     22    35    62.9  270   7.7    2    1    93.8
5     16    25    64.0  190   7.6    0    1    70.4
6     23    35    65.7  269   7.7    2    2    84.1
7     19    27    70.4  177   6.6    0    2    57.2
8     16    29    55.2  218   7.5    1    1    76.5
9     Bye
10    19    31    61.3  180   5.8    1    2    61.2
11    29    49    59.2  328   6.7    1    1    77.6
12    19    43    44.2  254   5.9    4    0    94.5
13    26    46    56.5  364   7.9    2    3    69.5
14    15    29    51.7  193   6.7    1    2    55.7
15    25    42    59.5  284   6.8    1    1    77.9
16     1     3    33.3   15   5.0    0    0    50.7
17     5    10    50.0  125  12.5    1    0   129.2
TOT: 322   524    61.5 3,734  7.1   23   18    83.3

Go ahead....guess!

I know the completion % is a bit high...but on the whole...this is the type of year I think you can expect from DA as a norm....Big games followed by crap games....but always turnovers mixed with the TD's.

Vinny is a good guess....but nope.

Anyone else have any ideas? I think once you figure it out you will all agree....this is probably the career path that DA will take.

WK   Comp   Att   Pct   Yds   Avg   TD   Int   Rate 
1     29    37    78.4  281   7.6    3    0   125.3
2     29    38    76.3  287   7.6    3    0   123.5
3     29    45    64.4  299   6.6    1    2    72.4
4     22    35    62.9  270   7.7    2    1    93.8
5     16    25    64.0  190   7.6    0    1    70.4
6     23    35    65.7  269   7.7    2    2    84.1
7     19    27    70.4  177   6.6    0    2    57.2
8     16    29    55.2  218   7.5    1    1    76.5
9     Bye
10    19    31    61.3  180   5.8    1    2    61.2
11    29    49    59.2  328   6.7    1    1    77.6
12    19    43    44.2  254   5.9    4    0    94.5
13    26    46    56.5  364   7.9    2    3    69.5
14    15    29    51.7  193   6.7    1    2    55.7
15    25    42    59.5  284   6.8    1    1    77.9
16     1     3    33.3   15   5.0    0    0    50.7
17     5    10    50.0  125  12.5    1    0   129.2
TOT: 322   524    61.5 3,734  7.1   23   18    83.3

Go ahead....guess!

I know the completion % is a bit high...but on the whole...this is the type of year I think you can expect from DA as a norm....Big games followed by crap games....but always turnovers mixed with the TD's.

If by this you mean Quinn will never have Anderson's arm strength, I agree.

However, I would define "passer" as including more than arm strength. Touch, accuracy, altering arm angles, etc. all come into play. By that definition its silly to say Anderson's ceiling is higher. Do you really think he's all of a sudden going to learn touch? If so, then I'd agree his ceiling is higher as a pure "passer". However, after four years in the NFL there's no evidence that his touch/accuracy are improving and/or consistent enough to classify him as a pure "passer". Strong arm? Ayup.

Also, Quinn's mobility in the pocket and out is an asset that DA can not match. It matters. We saw that against Buffalo on several occassions.

@old-dawg said:

Absolutely true. After that Giants game I honestly said to myself "Maybe he's turning the corner. Let's see what he does next game" and sure enough he was back to his below-average self.

We're not idiots Roach.. we call it like we see it.

@dawgtracker said:

Its all mental for DA. He has the physical tools to be a gun slinger. But he will never, ever be a high td to low int ratio QB. You have a chance at great things with a high risk of big problems with anderson. Kind of line Favre except not as good mentally or running.

@roach said:

That's because we knew what was coming! History always repeats itself and where DA should have been benched in prior weeks, the Giants game was just prolonging the inevitable. We knew that after the Giants game the next opportunity DA had to shit the bed, he would....and did. The End!

@inspecta said:

No it's not. Look at this thread. DA's been benched for two games now and these knuckleheads still can't stop talking about the guy. We kicked the Giants ass, and this Board couldn't wait 48 hours to start blasting him. Look it up. That's the truth.

When things did not go his way he could not play himself or the team out of the funk. When things started going bad they stayed bad.

@atenears said:

Cheer for Brady now that he is in ... but answer me this, "Why the kicking of DA now that he is out?"

People were kicking DA when he was in, just like Buffalo is kicking their starter. When teams get film on Quinn and he goes the route of DA we'll kick him as well. This is the NFL.

You know the drill. Don't act like Derek didn't have this coming.

Amazing Arm

Awesome Accuracy

Sure, he is inconsistent but, most of the games we lost .. we had a receiver with oil in his hands and D that could not hold on for 1 more quarter.

The guy who said that DA will not beat Bills ? I challenge you to prove ur statement. I did not expect the Brown to win over the Giants. But guess what we did. And DA's long awesome throws were a big part.

Sure BQ has the skills needed to be a great QB and will do us good. But, with this team ... i will not be surprised if we go 8-8 next season also without making player changes. He will win some games while the games and in games where a strong arm will be a big boost, he will struggle.

I still feel that until this season is over we cannot guarantee BQ any starting spot over DA. Comparing the chances of Brown making the playoffs just by changing the QB is like .... a house that has a leaky roof and the house owner decides to paint the wall ....

The QB is not our weakest position, in fact we are much better in QB position than many teams (some that have assured playoff spots also).

Then defenses started to take notice, found his weaknesses, exploited them, and DA has not been able to respond. He lost his confidence after the first couple games this year, and the rest is history.

@dtbh said:

That's a joke right?

In some twisted way of trying to create balance on something we've had anything but for the last year....

Who knows how DA would have done against Buffalo. He's our backup QB right now so I'd like to think he would have come in and performed well.

Point is, both guys are our guys. Its purely speculation and opinion as to whom will be the better horse. That discussion can, and probably should, be a fun and civil one.

DA would have lost that game against Buffalo. He would have crumbled in crunch time. He should have shit his pants at those blitz packages right up the middle. We're already better off with BQ at the helm.

Two games in.