<![CDATA[Tim Tebow Unveiling New Delivery]]>Tebow to unveil new delivery at pro day

By Adam Schefter

ESPN

Tim Tebow is, essentially, painting over the masterpiece he created at the University of Florida.

In an effort to quiet his critics and refine his game, Tebow is changing the way he holds a football, shifting it from his waist to his shoulder. He is concentrating on taking three- and five-step drops instead of working out of the shotgun formation he used at Florida.

He will not unveil Tebow 2.0 at this week's scouting combine in Indianapolis, preferring instead to wait for his pro day at the University of Florida on March 17.

But until then, he will continue working on improving his fundamentals in an effort to improve his draft position and his game.

"But there are things that I can get a lot better at -- my fundamentals. I've never been asked to shorten or quicken my release and not have a loop in it. The changes I'm making have gone very well and it's becoming more and more natural to me."

Asked if he would have embarked on such an extensive and exhausting process had his performance at the Senior Bowl not been so roundly criticized, Tebow said: "Probably, just because of the quarterback coaches I've been working with. I want to get better. I want to be around people who will push me. I will do anything to get better. Without hearing the criticism, I would have done it.

"It's made me more confident, more accurate. And that's not to say I haven't had this type of coaching in the past. I just have had different coaching than this NFL style."

Tebow has been tutored in a pro-style way by working with a coaching team that includes former NFL offensive coordinator Zeke Bratkowski, Montreal Alouettes head coach Marc Trestman, Arizona State's new offensive coordinator Noel Mazzone and former NFL head coach Sam Wyche.

Bratkowski has concentrated on getting Tebow to raise the football to where it now does not dip lower than his shoulder. The delivery that allowed Tebow to complete over 67 percent of his passes at Florida but the one that also was roundly questioned during and after the Senior Bowl has begun to be made over at the pre-draft workouts in Nashville.

Much of the work has started with Tebow's feet, which were accustomed to working out of a shotgun offense. Bratkowski and others have drilled Tebow on the requisite footwork that he will need to become a successful NFL quarterback.

Anyone who has seen Tebow has noticed the difference -- already.

"You're not looking at the same quarterback," said Bratkowski, who has worked with quarterbacks such as San Diego's Philip Rivers, Philadelphia's Michael Vick and Boomer Esiason. "To say we're there 100 percent where we want to be, no. But we'll be more improved come pro day than we are at this point in time now."

Tebow still will attend this week's combine, go through his medical tests, meet with coaches, and do everything but throw. Then he will return to Gainesville to further work on upgrading his fundamentals with Bratkowski and others so that Tebow will not revert back to his old ways during his upcoming workouts.

"That's the reason we're trying to rep it and rep it and rep it," Bratkowski said. Those who have seen Tebow's new delivery believe it is noticeably quicker.

"The ball is coming out a lot faster now," Trestman said. Yet what most impressed Trestman about Tebow was not the quarterback's adaptability but his mental capacity.

"His intelligence level is as high as any quarterback I've encountered coming out of college," Trestman said. "His intelligence is off the charts. After spending time with Tim, it was evident that he learned a lot of football in his four years at Florida -- a lot.

"As a result he has been able to quickly adapt and make corrections in his throwing motion and footwork that will allow him to get the ball out faster and improve his accuracy. He has more than enough arm strength and shown he can make all the throws at the next level. He has only been at it for a few weeks so I can only anticipate he will continue to improve."

Bratkowski said the coaches learn more from Tebow than he learns from them. His intelligence has enabled him to grasp what the coaches are trying to teach.

Many, including ESPN's Mel Kiper Jr. and Todd McShay, questioned how Tebow's delivery would translate at the NFL level.

Other quarterbacks have tried a similar approach, achieving mixed results. From the time he left Tennessee and arrived in Indianapolis, quarterback Peyton Manning changed and perfected his delivery. Former No. 1 overall pick David Carr once changed his, but never managed to make it consistently work.

Other high-profile athletes in other sports have changed their game, as well. Through the years, Tiger Woods has changed his golf swing on multiple occasions. Now Tebow is waging a similar battle, trying to upgrade his fundamentals in time for his NFL pro day, so teams can be impressed enough with him to draft him higher than they currently have him slotted.

"Things like this are challenges for him," Bratkowski said. "He doesn't have rabbit ears, but he knows what people are saying and he hears it -- and that motivates him. He is working hard to make sure what he is doing now is something he can showcase later."

Tebow does not plan to wait long.

"I've done this several thousand times," Tebow said. "With continued work, I will have this down pat by minicamp. It will be like second nature. It's not like it feels awkward to me now. I'm excited about the changes I've made."

After watching the video, his mechanics do look a hell of a lot better. Would he be worth taking a shot on in a later round? It's definitely worth checking out his Pro Day, I love his attitude already. If he can mechanically become a viable NFL QB, he'd be a hell of an asset.

Plus, he had a badass beard when working in the pass skele drills outside. He reminded me of Rocky in Rocky 4.

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@the-gipper said:

I wouldn't touch him in the second round with a 12 foot Ukrainian.

with no teeth drinking popov.

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@ballpeen said:

I would take him with our 2nd round pick as it stands now.

But, I will wait for combine and pro day results to make a final call.

I wouldn't touch him in the second round with a 12 foot Ukrainian.

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@miktoxic said:

tebowsad.jpg

wonder if espn will have to set up the ole 'cryin room' like they did for quinn?

Probably not. I doubt Tim would go to that....and seeing everyones opinion of his ability, why would he even be invited? The NFL doesn't invite every 7th rounder.

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@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

WE SHOULD TRADE UP TO THE FIRST OVERALL PICK AND GRAB HIM!

Seriously, though, I'd take a shot at him in the third.

I would take him with our 2nd round pick as it stands now.

But, I will wait for combine and pro day results to make a final call.

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wonder if espn will have to set up the ole 'cryin room' like they did for quinn?

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@the-gipper said:

Bottom line: All we care about is what the Browns should do.

If Tebow is there in the 5th round or beyond, I wouldn't mind much if they used one of their 11 picks on him at that point. Take a flyer, why not.

Does anyone disagree with this possible approach?

Does anyone think we should invest a high pick on him?

Does anyone think we shouldn't touch him with a 10 foot Lithuanian, err, I mean a 10 foot Pole?

WE SHOULD TRADE UP TO THE FIRST OVERALL PICK AND GRAB HIM!

Seriously, though, I'd take a shot at him in the third.

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@the-gipper said:

[ Look at all the first round busts in say, just the last 10 years. It is the very rare low pick or undrafted QB that makes an impact in the NFL[/color].

As I documented in another thread, there are only 3 teams in the NFL that are starting a QB that that team drafted that was taken below the first round. The following are all the QBs that have been selected in the first round since the 1999 season, by franchise:

I will answer my own questions by highlighting those I think are true busts. Some that are not highlighted may mean that it is too early to judge, not that they have met with success:

Arizona: Matt Leinert

Atlanta: Michael Vick, Matt Ryan

Baltimore: Kyle Boller, Joe Flacco

Buffalo: J.P. Losman

Chicago: Cade McKnown, Rex Grossman

Cincy: Akili Smith, Carson Palmer

Cleveland: Tim Couch, Brady Quinn

Denver: Jay Cutler

Detroit: Joey Harrington, Matt Stafford

Green Bay: Aaron Rodgers

Houston: David Carr

Jacksonville: Byron Leftwich

Minnesota: Dante Culpepper

NY Giants: Eli Manning

NY Jets: Chad Pennington, Mark Sanchez

Oakland: JaMarcus Russell

Philly: Donovan McNabb

Pittsburgh: Ben Roethlisberger

San Diego: Philip Rivers

San Fran: Alex Smith

Tampa Bay: Josh Freeman

Tennessee: Vince Young

Washington: Patrick Ramsey, Jason Campbell.

My question is: who of these do you think are true busts? What percent of 1st round QBs turn out busts?

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/157800https://brownsboard.com/post/157800Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:08:46 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Tim Tebow Unveiling New Delivery on Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:05:00 GMT]]>[ Look at all the first round busts in say, just the last 10 years. It is the very rare low pick or undrafted QB that makes an impact in the NFL[/color].

As I documented in another thread, there are only 3 teams in the NFL that are starting a QB that that team drafted that was taken below the first round. The following are all the QBs that have been selected in the first round since the 1999 season, by franchise:

Arizona: Matt Leinert

Atlanta: Michael Vick, Matt Ryan

Baltimore: Kyle Boller, Joe Flacco

Buffalo: J.P. Losman

Chicago: Cade McKnown, Rex Grossman

Cincy: Akili Smith, Carson Palmer

Cleveland: Tim Couch, Brady Quinn

Denver: Jay Cutler

Detroit: Joey Harrington, Matt Stafford

Green Bay: Aaron Rodgers

Houston: David Carr

Jacksonville: Byron Leftwich

Minnesota: Dante Culpepper

NY Giants: Eli Manning

NY Jets: Chad Pennington, Mark Sanchez

Oakland: JaMarcus Russell

Philly: Donovan McNabb

Pittsburgh: Ben Roethlisberger

San Diego: Philip Rivers

San Fran: Alex Smith

Tampa Bay: Josh Freeman

Tennessee: Vince Young

Washington: Patrick Ramsey, Jason Campbell.

My question is: who of these do you think are true busts? What percent of 1st round QBs turn out busts?

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@the-gipper said:

Hundreds and hundreds of college players had attitude and pride, but they still didn't get drafted, or got cut or whatever because they just weren't good enough.

Most knowledgeable scouts who get paid to evaluate these things don't give Tebow much of a chance. Now, they are occasionally wrong. Tony Romo went undrafted, as did Kurt Warner, and Tom Brady was only picked in the 6th round, but, overall, these guys do a pretty decent job of talent evaluation.

It seems like they are more likely to overrate a QB than underrate them. Look at all the first round busts in say, just the last 10 years. It is the very rare low pick or undrafted QB that makes an impact in the NFL

.

This is where I used to take umbrage with our former 20,000 post QB guru who claimed "drafting is so much better than it was 20 years ago & every highly touted qb coming out in the draft is a sure-fire franchise qb. " BS.

In answer to you other post, if Pike, LeVevour, and Tebow are all there in the third round- I take a flyer on one of them, and I really have no preference which- I'll leave that up to Holmgren. If I'm the Browns, I don't go qb shopping before then.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/157781https://brownsboard.com/post/157781Wed, 24 Feb 2010 18:33:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Tim Tebow Unveiling New Delivery on Wed, 24 Feb 2010 18:14:23 GMT]]>Bottom line: All we care about is what the Browns should do.

If Tebow is there in the 5th round or beyond, I wouldn't mind much if they used one of their 11 picks on him at that point. Take a flyer, why not.

Does anyone disagree with this possible approach?

Does anyone think we should invest a high pick on him?

Does anyone think we shouldn't touch him with a 10 foot Lithuanian, err, I mean a 10 foot Pole?

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/157770https://brownsboard.com/post/157770Wed, 24 Feb 2010 18:14:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Tim Tebow Unveiling New Delivery on Wed, 24 Feb 2010 17:13:48 GMT]]>tebow will find a niche in the league, that i'm sure. It's been said here a little bit, but i've heard from reporters, scouts and what we know to be true about Tebow is that he'll work his ass off to be the best player he can be. In some respects, I'd rather have a guy who I know is going to come to the field every day striving to get better with perhaps less football tools than a premadonna with a bunch of talent but is lazy. From the work ethic football standpoint, he's probably the best QB in the draft (maybe) haha.

With that being said, even despite his new delivery I wouldn't take him before late 3rd or 4th. I'd almost bet right now though that the Jags take him with their 2nd round pick. IF he falls that far and we take him, I wouldn't be upset.

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@canton-mike said:

In Tebow's case, as with all players......We'll see.

IMHO, the kid is a winner & he'll do whatever is required to be a winner in the NFL. You can't coach attitude & pride....his are off the charts on the positive end.

Mike

Hundreds and hundreds of college players had attitude and pride, but they still didn't get drafted, or got cut or whatever because they just weren't good enough.

Most knowledgeable scouts who get paid to evaluate these things don't give Tebow much of a chance. Now, they are occasionally wrong. Tony Romo went undrafted, as did Kurt Warner, and Tom Brady was only picked in the 6th round, but, overall, these guys do a pretty decent job of talent evaluation.

It seems like they are more likely to overrate a QB than underrate them. Look at all the first round busts in say, just the last 10 years. It is the very rare low pick or undrafted QB that makes an impact in the NFL.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/157740https://brownsboard.com/post/157740Wed, 24 Feb 2010 15:05:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Tim Tebow Unveiling New Delivery on Wed, 24 Feb 2010 13:46:48 GMT]]>From Rotoworld:

Long-time NFL coach and quarterback guru Sam Wyche is willing to put his reputation on the line that Tim Tebow will be an elite QB at the NFL level.

"If this guy can't be a starting quarterback in the NFL, then I was in the wrong profession for a lot of years," said Wyche, who has coached Joe Montana and Boomer Esiason among others. Though Wyche's eccentricities once earned him the nickname "Wicky Wacky," he's long been appreciated for open-mindedness and creativity. It's refreshing to hear a positive Tebow outlook from a respected offensive mind.

Interesting. With a lot of experts saying that there's nothing worth an early pick outside Clausen and Bradford, I would be all for gambling on a guy like Tebow, who could rewards the Browns a lot.

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@ballpeen said:

Sorry man....you don't know what you are talking about.

On which part? Watched every Gator game over the last 7-8 years and Chris Leak had a very weak arm and he was a terrible QB.. Watching the Vols game this year you could see that Tebow could not read a NFL style defense..

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@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Growing up "Angels in the Outfield" was one of my favorite movies.

Just nostalgia'd.

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@bonedawg said:

I heard his new delivery involves snapping the ball, dropping back, praying really hard and then having angels deliver the ball to his receivers.

And you're telling me you wouldn't pay to watch that? Growing up "Angels in the Outfield" was one of my favorite movies.

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@the-gipper said:

I am not so sure. Florida won with Chris Leak. They could have probably continued to win with the likes of Chris Leak, or Tim Tebow or Daffy Duck (well, maybe not Daffy....Donald Duck). I think it is a perfect apt analogy. I guess time will tell.

Come on man.....you're just talking smack here......just admit it and we move on.

If not, you are seriously trying to say a cartoon character would be a better QB??

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@b86b said:

Chris Leak was terrible and had a very weak arm is why he never made it in the NFL... Tebow's biggest hurdle is gonna be learning to read defenses and not just take off running if option 1 isn't there..

Sorry man....you don't know what you are talking about.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/157697https://brownsboard.com/post/157697Wed, 24 Feb 2010 00:17:07 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Tim Tebow Unveiling New Delivery on Tue, 23 Feb 2010 23:18:38 GMT]]>I heard his new delivery involves snapping the ball, dropping back, praying really hard and then having angels deliver the ball to his receivers.

tebow-jesus.jpg

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/157694https://brownsboard.com/post/157694Tue, 23 Feb 2010 23:18:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Tim Tebow Unveiling New Delivery on Tue, 23 Feb 2010 22:08:07 GMT]]>In Tebow's case, as with all players......We'll see.

IMHO, the kid is a winner & he'll do whatever is required to be a winner in the NFL. You can't coach attitude & pride....his are off the charts on the positive end.

Mike

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@ballpeen said:

I don't think so.

To the largest degree, Miami made Toretta with the talent around him.

To a large degree, Tebow made Florida, even with the talent around him.

There is a big difference.

I am not so sure. Florida won with Chris Leak. They could have probably continued to win with the likes of Chris Leak, or Tim Tebow or Daffy Duck (well, maybe not Daffy....Donald Duck). I think it is a perfect apt analogy. I guess time will tell.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/157635https://brownsboard.com/post/157635Tue, 23 Feb 2010 16:40:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Tim Tebow Unveiling New Delivery on Tue, 23 Feb 2010 16:37:10 GMT]]>Chris Leak was terrible and had a very weak arm is why he never made it in the NFL... Tebow's biggest hurdle is gonna be learning to read defenses and not just take off running if option 1 isn't there..

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@erie-dawg said:

Again what is a Steve young type qb????

A QB who is a huge threat rolling out, he can break tackles if he runs but will accurately throw the ball on the run if that is the best option.

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@the-gipper said:

Tim Tebow = Gino Torretta

I don't think so.

To the largest degree, Miami made Toretta with the talent around him.

To a large degree, Tebow made Florida, even with the talent around him.

There is a big difference.

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