gotta give tebow credit.....he wants it .......reminds me of a young Brett Favre (hint)

i really hope they try to get more picks--it IS a crapshoot but the more shots on goal the better chance of scoring.

Seriously, its probably on NFL.com. They show multiple players running the 40 simultaneously and Mays beats everybody. He even beat Best and Spiller and still got a slower time.

Again, the combine is joke.

@hoorta said:

OTOH instincts can make up for lack of straight line speed, or the other way around. Got a feeling Taylor Mays' clocked 4.24 track speed makes up for lack of instincts.

i wasn't confident enough to say anything before, since i don't follow Florida nor have i seen any full games, but i wasn't overly impressed with Haden in the highlights. in fairness they were out of context but i did watch scads of them.

he looked very fundamentally sound and quick but to be taken @ #7...

in my amateur opinion i certainly couldn't tell if i was looking at a potential elite nfl CB or not. and with these 40 times? imo he's suspect at #7.

what i probably liked most was his personality. he seemed like he could fit in pretty well as a Brown from what i can tell, and although i'm skeptical i figure the coaches could scrutinize the measurements.

now i've never seen any USC games in their entirety either but having said that, Taylor Mays speed shows up on film load and clear. he obviously can't take those risks in the pros but if he can be coached up the sky's the limit for this kid.

if he has the ability to cover nfl WRs i'd like to see if they can convert him to CB first and then safety later in his career. Adrian Peterson speed at CB? he might even save a touchdown if he was deep on the play.

if they traded out of the #7 got some picks and took Mays later as our 1st pick i wouldn't complain at all.

Then I could draft Kam, or one of a couple of other big safeties later on.

Earl Thomas has it all. His stock is rising. I can see it now with this draft -

a lot of NFL teams will have their people sitting around their draft room,

deciding on their draft projections, and each team will be rof,l at how many

different ways it could go...

@calfoxwc said:

It's hard to believe he runs the 40 that "slow".

Does it change his status if he runs the 4.57/4.6 at his pro day ?

I honestly don't know. But one guy covering the combine says Earl Thomas is the best safety in the draft.

We could trade down, get another 2nd round pick, and still get Earl Thomas.

Oh, THIS draft is going to get crazy.

I'm concerned. Yeah, Ray Lewis ran a slow 40 too, but 4.56 is reeeeeaaalllly slow for an elite corner. If he had run a 4.4 or a 4.3 he'd be our guy. The Browns will have to watch a ton of game film before they come to a decision on Hayden.

OTOH instincts can make up for lack of straight line speed, or the other way around. Got a feeling Taylor Mays' clocked 4.24 track speed makes up for lack of instincts.

@dave said:

Interesting.....

Not a big fan - Brown struggles with his sideline accuracy and lets his footwork go haywire when facing pressure. At the Texas vs. the Nation practices, he reportedly was hesitant to throw into tight windows, which raises red flags about his confidence & arm strength.

Levi's got decent tools, especially for a guy who's more of a late round prospect. But I'm not particularly optimistic about him ever becoming an NFL starter.

@yosemitejam said:

Ha, hell yeah!

@carolina-brownie said:

That is all.

I wouldn't mind seeing Cleveland Brown C.J. despoil with moribund pimp struts the pissburgh end zone several times next season.. Oh baby!!!!

That is all.

PS. This is going to sound like Jon Madden but...duh....duh....Levi Brown? If you want your kid to grow up and be a football player folks, name him Levi. That is a football name. Its on par with Tank Mass or Pyle Hitter. I like the look and sound of this kid.

02/27/2010 - "I have a lot to prove," Brown said Thursday. "I don't get talked about all the time on ESPN like those other guys because they're from big schools, and I'm from Troy. It's a great opportunity to let everybody see I can make all the throws and hopefully show I'm just as good as they are." Brown said he has talked to scouts from the Browns in Indianapolis, but he has not met with Coach Eric Mangini, team president Mike Holmgren or General Manager Tom Heckert, at least not yet. The Browns are expected to draft a quarterback with one of their 11 picks. One knock on Brown is he has a three-quarter arm delivery, and he doesn't plan to change it. "I've heard media people say it's an odd delivery and it's a problem," Brown said. "I disagree. I don't think it's a problem. The only reason it's different is it's quicker than anybody else's. "It would be a problem if I short-armed it and didn't have velocity, but that isn't the case. I think it's good because it's so quick. Hopefully everybody else agrees." Brown completed 61.7 percent of his passes in 2008 and 63.7 percent in 2009 playing in the Sun Belt Conference. - Jeff Schudel, The News-Herald

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players...w;pageContainer

Interesting.....

@b86b said:

I'm still not too concerned about Haden's straight ahead speed. If he doesn't get beat a lot, he won't have to run anybody down. So its a damn good thing Eric Wright is fast! Boy, I'm really looking at this as the glass is half full.

His 40 time doesn't do enough to change my mind about him. What it does mean is that he should drop a few spots now. This may allow us to trade down, get some more picks, and get Haden for less money. But we'll see how Heckert and Company handle it. I would rather have Berry anyways. Or as mentioned above, that Earl Thomas kid. I think a safety is more valuable than a CB. They can cover more ground.

It's hard to believe he runs the 40 that "slow".

Does it change his status if he runs the 4.57/4.6 at his pro day ?

I honestly don't know. But one guy covering the combine says Earl Thomas is the best safety in the draft.

We could trade down, get another 2nd round pick, and still get Earl Thomas.

Oh, THIS draft is going to get crazy.

@maddogg7888 said:

he still gets hurt a lot and blows his assignments. he's too risky for number 7 overall.

@mopaji said:

Haden's unofficial 4.57 and 4.60 40..

Edit: Haden just ran a 4.57

@yosemitejam said:

If anyone has a good source for combine video let me know..Did you know that vegas takes bets on combine events???? Only in America

Lefevour posted a faster time He will be available in the later rounds also. I have seen the kid play, I was really impressed with him. I would love to see the Browns draft him

@ballpeen said:

He just wants to have someone want him...and the team that does is going to get the steal of the draft.

That kid is going to be a Super Bowl MVP....as a QB.

As Mooch said....he could play QB for me any day......Chucky has said the same thing.....both Holmgren guys......I bet Holmgren likes his too.

If he is there at our pick in the 2nd, I think there is a good chance we take him.

If he has a good showing at his pro day, he'll not make to the 2nd round.....I think he goes in the 1st, for sure. I think the Jags get him at #10.