FREAKofSTEEL08 said:

I robbed a store on meth, I am an addict, I shouldn't go to jail.

nmills said:

http://msn.foxsports.com/video?vid=45ac582...oxsports_cp_nfl

How do you post a video if its not on Youtube?

wow... I really cant disagree with him at this point. Sad but true.

@bonedawg said:

You have Issues Bone...lol

@erie-dawg said:

Only in Cleveland... Everywhere else a Exellent QB and your basic Sex Addict. No Rape there dreamer.

http://msn.foxsports.com/video?vid=45ac582...oxsports_cp_nfl

How do you post a video if its not on Youtube?

@erie-dawg said:

or maybe just a nibbler.

@erie-dawg said:

Some bitches just want to get drunk for free it's happened to everyone, maybe ben realized this and took some anyway.

But you are comparing ben's incident's too getting laid in a car or on the picnic table consensually way different.

no brother, what i am sayinfg is that it could be you or me. you being the debonair qb for an opposing team, and i, just a schlub graphic artist in ny. hey if it's consensual who cares where it;s done. half the preachers nowadays have to be monitored, and they play in the gay league.. i think everyone here, fan or foe, realize there's a lot more to come out of this story. my point is. don't be the first to cast the stone when living in such a glass house!!!!!

@miktoxic said:

Just because you buy'em drinks don't mean your getting any gina at the end of the night no matter who you are.

Some bitches just want to get drunk for free it's happened to everyone, maybe ben realized this and took some anyway.

But you are comparing ben's incident's too getting laid in a car or on the picnic table consensually way different.

@miktoxic said:

listen the guy sounds like a real creep who'd xxxx a snake if you held it's head, but at the same time he's young, a millionaire and obviously likes to get it on. that doesn't make him guilty. DUMB? yes. you know who else is dumb in this case? the stupid girl who thought it would be cool to get free drinks from an nfl player. why do you buy girls drinks? cuz you hope down the line it might lead to you getting some of that ass. a bathroom? really? not that weird though. hey, if you haven't got a bj from your girl riding down the highway or on the picnic table at night there's something wrong with you. give the guy a break. we're all too willing to judge somebody before anything has been proven. would you like to be tried and convicted in the court of public opinion for every dumb boner move you ever made? hells no.

You said it DUMB. As in Young DUMB and full of... well you know where thats going. Ben needs to understand the Problem is being an NFL QB for a successful Team. Its NOT a thing your employer is going to just say "Hey hes a DUMB Kid " , truth he needs to become a Man and control himself . Or his Legacy wont be SUPER BOWL rings , it will be QBs Gone Wild ...

listen the guy sounds like a real creep who'd xxxx a snake if you held it's head, but at the same time he's young, a millionaire and obviously likes to get it on. that doesn't make him guilty. DUMB? yes. you know who else is dumb in this case? the stupid girl who thought it would be cool to get free drinks from an nfl player. why do you buy girls drinks? cuz you hope down the line it might lead to you getting some of that ass. a bathroom? really? not that weird though. hey, if you haven't got a bj from your girl riding down the highway or on the picnic table at night there's something wrong with you. give the guy a break. we're all too willing to judge somebody before anything has been proven. would you like to be tried and convicted in the court of public opinion for every dumb boner move you ever made? hells no.

Posted by Mike Florio on March 25, 2010 7:47 PM ET

While sifting through the suddenly-constant updates in the Ben Roethlisberger sexual assault case, I came across an item from Gary Mihoces of USA Today titled "Analyst: 'Just no way to prosecute' Ben Roethlisberger case."

My first thought was to see who the analyst is, and to understand why he or she believes that there's "no way to prosecute" Roethlisberger. As it turns out, the "analyst" represents one of the two off-duty police officers who moonlight as Ben's bodyguards.

"That tells me what I've thought all along," Michael Santicola said regarding the news that police had withdrawn a request for DNA evidence. "There's just no way to prosecute this case. There's no crime."

Santicola, who represents Anthony Barravecchio, is hardly an "analyst." Santicola is an "advocate," because his client eventually could be charged as an "accessory."

Consider the most recent report from ESPN's Kelly Naqi, who writes that one of the two Big Ben bodyguards was blocking the path that led to the bathroom in which the alleged incident occurred.

Another attorney with whom Mihoces spoke, who has no apparent connection to the case, offered a different view. "DNA only becomes important if the person that's been accused said, 'Look I was no where near the girl, we never had any physical contact and she's making all this up,'" said Atlanta lawyer Page Pate.

That's the point we've been making. There's no need for DNA evidence if, as has been reported, Roethsliberger admitted to engaging in sexual contact with the alleged victim.

More importantly, there's no reason to regard as persuasive or unbiased the opinion of a lawyer who has a client with an obvious interest in seeing this thing go away.

FREAKofSTEEL08 said:

Career 186 150 895 10947 12.2 78 85 Hines Ward

Career 165 143 537 8723 16.2 63 74 John Stallworth

*different ERAs yes. But Hines has had a Hell of a Career

Like I said, borderline. Hard to compare guys from different eras like Ward and Stallworth. The game has opened so much more offensively since Stallworth's time. Like I said, Ward may have 6 or 8 other WRs he may be competing for for HOF recognition. I am not saying he doesn't have an argument. Timing could be crucial to him. Who is he competing against. That timing is working against the likes of Andre Reed and Tim Brown right now. The same could happen to Ward 5 -15 years after he retires.

Career 186 150 895 10947 12.2 78 85 Hines Ward

Career 165 143 537 8723 16.2 63 74 John Stallworth

Career 255 202 1094 14934 13.7 100 80 T Brown

Career 234 217 951 13198 13.9 87 83 Andre reed

Interesting ...Ward WELL Below them in Time Spent playing. And they also could both make it in at some point. Ward seems much more Productive in his Opportunities . Add to that the Beastly Blocking ...Super Bowls wins and a SB MVP. I think he is in. I see what your saying though.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

It really is a joke. I know a lot of times girls regret something they did when they were drunk and justify it by saying they were forced but, the fact that this is #2 and that he said "she fell and hit her head" makes in seem really fishy. How many times have you heard of kids with bruises and the parents saying they fell? Or women with black eyes or fat lips saying they fell? Ben has issues and although we don't know the severity of the assualt, something happened that night and he should get punished. But of course, he won't.

If it were any of us, we would be in custody during the entire investigation that would have taken about 3 days before we get thrown on jail for two years and have to register as a sex offender.

Nafreleets said:

her and women like her take away from the truly horrible nature of an actual rape when they make false accusations. like this.

perfect example is Ben. he will forever be labeled by this even though the first case was so ludicrous as to be laughable and the second girl can't even find time in her busy schedule to go and give a statement agains the guy that she accused of violating her sexually.

honestly both those women should be having charges filed against them. Ben will deal with this for the rest of his life. these women get to go on with their lives as if nothing hapened...............wich it didn't, to them at least.

Not quite. If the victim's legal council is telling her it's a no win situation, than they will suggest getting as much money as they can out of him and move on with her life as soon as possible. It's much better for the victim to do that than to drag on a court case for a year only to see him get probation and counseling and leaving the victim with nothing but legal bills.

her and women like her take away from the truly horrible nature of an actual rape when they make false accusations. like this.

perfect example is Ben. he will forever be labeled by this even though the first case was so ludicrous as to be laughable and the second girl can't even find time in her busy schedule to go and give a statement agains the guy that she accused of violating her sexually.

honestly both those women should be having charges filed against them. Ben will deal with this for the rest of his life. these women get to go on with their lives as if nothing hapened...............wich it didn't, to them at least.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

That's what ben was doing when he traveled back to Georgia and was never interviewed by police. He was running around bribing everybody.

@mopaji said:

It's more like they were raped with money. Nothing consensual, just forced to cover something up.

FREAKofSTEEL08 said:

HMM, he will be a borderline case, considering all the other good to great receivers playing in the same era, like Marvin Harrison, Randy Moss, T.O., Anquan Boldin, Isaac Bruce, Tori Holt, Tony Gonzales. He might make it. He has a case, but then he might get surpassed and ovelooked by other younger, better receivers while he is waiting. The likes of Larry Fitgerald, Andre Johnson, etc.

Note that Chris Carter and Tim Brown are still waiting.