One only has to like back to Quinns draft where he was falling like a rock.

It is evident that there were many GMs who didn't like him, and it is also evident that they were probably correct in that assessment.

@choco said:

lets set the bar above mediocrity this time....

awwwwww do you we haaave too?

@dave said:

I could give a sh!t less if he ever throws a TD as long as we win. Give it to Harrison 100 times a game and let him set the rushing record every week, but give me a win. A QB can only do so much to win a game, but a QB throwing multiple pics (like Delhomme did last year) almost always guarantees a loss.

Sure it more fun to watch an air attack but give me win.

i think we just saw that you can win solely on the running game, but you wont beat elite teams....ie, no playoffs.

lets set the bar above mediocrity this time....

I could give a sh!t less if he ever throws a TD as long as we win. Give it to Harrison 100 times a game and let him set the rushing record every week, but give me a win. A QB can only do so much to win a game, but a QB throwing multiple pics (like Delhomme did last year) almost always guarantees a loss.

Sure it more fun to watch an air attack but give me win.

@athensbuck26 said:

i guess that means we can call Mark Sanchez a bust since he had a worse season then Quinn while playing more games in his career by your logic

fail

also Mangini wanted Quinn as the starter but lerner made him bench quinn so he wouldnt get his bonus

too early? 3 years is too early? sanchez was a rookie last year dipshit.....quinns been in the league 3 years, and sucked in every one of them.

hell, even DA shined at various points...doesn't mean he's good either.

additionally, why pay the bonus when it was obvious he didn't desreve it? DA didn't get his bonus either.

look....this blind homerism has killed this team for 3 years. give it a rest, i dont want our next QB looking over his shoulder because a few idiots cling to their hope that the hometown boy will be a hero.

this isn't a xxxxing fairy tale.

@athensbuck26 said:

heres a hint

he broke our losing streak AND NFL record streak of most consecutive quarters scored without a TD

OOOOPS

Quinn either holds or is on the verge of holding the NFL record for career wins without throwing a TD pass..... yup, he's never thrown one in a win.

@lebrent said:

Good catch Lebrent. I meant Grossman in my OP. The point was that just because a QB makes a super bowl appearance doesn't mean he is gold forever.

@athensbuck26 said:

you kno DA has had a full season right? just checking

Holmgren quote was "needs two full seasons". Who's the moron now?

@medicineman said:

I know what you mean. It's frustrating. And I'm sick and damn tired of all the losing too. But in this case, I think the best action insofar is inaction. The way I see it, we're not going to get what we want for Quinn. We're definitely not getting anywhere NEAR what we gave up to bring him in. His salary is relatively small, and he has a year in the new offensive system. He's got some sort of camraderie with the team, however small, at least they're familiar with him. Plus, he's the face of the organization whether people want to accept that or not. Give him his shot. Bring a vet in here to mentor either Seneca or whomever we draft. Release Ratliff. That gives us 4 QBs, just like most of the rosters in the NFL. 3 QBs and an emergency QB.

If we can get a 2nd and a 4th for him, we take it. But I don't see that happening.

@theclevelandsound said:

Kyle Orton did a very minimal thing to get the Bears to the Super Bowl. The Bears defense got them there.

Jake Delhomme was partially responsible for getting the Panthers there.

Are you guys talking about Orton or Grossman. I'd take Orton, but Grossman was the one who started for the Bears in the superbowl and no I don't want him. Orton is a decent QB.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

I thought you were better than that. I know you're better than that.

Friend anymore I couldn't even care less. Im so sick of this team losing getting myself so pumped for nothing. I was so happy when we built Pittsburgh last year I was ready to buy a Quinn jersey. THEN HE IS HURT.................................AGAIN. Enough is enough. I say just remove the player and get rid of all doubts or questions. Let him be somebody else's problem. As for the homo remark, a lot of other people on here do it I wanted to fit in.

@medicineman said:

So, instead of trying to produce a valid counterpoint, you're just going to resort to homosexual remarks?

I thought you were better than that. I know you're better than that.

@athensbuck26 said:

heres a hint

he broke our losing streak AND NFL record streak of most consecutive quarters scored without a TD

OOOOPS

Hey a loss is a loss. But you better take Quinns cock out of your mouth because he is leaving town. Buh bye

@medicineman said:

yeah Quinn was the sole reason we lost all those games the last 2 years

heres a hint

he broke our losing streak AND NFL record streak of most consecutive quarters scored without a TD

OOOOPS

@drunkandstoopid said:

are you a moron? serious question

you kno DA has had a full season right? just checking

@medicineman said:

way way way to early to call anyone a bust

i guess that means we can call Mark Sanchez a bust since he had a worse season then Quinn while playing more games in his career by your logic

fail

also Mangini wanted Quinn as the starter but lerner made him bench quinn so he wouldnt get his bonus

@bonedawg said:

Oh, and Delhomme ain't no Brett Favre my friend.

Considering the fact that I had to live with DA and BQ; hell yeah I would rather have him. And his performance with the Broncos was not that terrible either.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Don't believe me?

I will agree, though. He's been hurt too much.

Holmgren never said who he was referring to. Could've been talking about BQ or DA.

@medicineman said:

Who said that? I never heard either Holmgren or Mangini say anything of the sort. Quinn was sat last season because of his contract escalators, and if you can't see that then you are blind. Then he goes back in and gets hurt, and we need Anderson once again. And Holmgren said himself that Quinn wasn't given a fair shake and 12 games is not near enough to judge a QB.

Don't believe me?

A quarterback needs two full seasons before you can judge him

Somebody's got to play a full season. Not two games here, out two games, in three games ... It doesn't work. So pick one, commit, coach him up, build confidence, make him better and then surround him with good people.

I will agree, though. He's been hurt too much.

@athensbuck26 said:

got it

i dont care who the QB but the reasons people say quinn sucks are hillarious and 100% dead wrong

12 games is only about 1/3rd of the number of games you can decide about a QB before he's good or bad

Well 2 head coaches now don't see Quinn as a NFL starter. I got it. HE IS A BUST. get over it. He can't even stay healthy in 2 straight seasons. Count the losses and move on.

@medicineman said:

so any QB with 12 games started should get a full season of games

got it

i dont care who the QB but the reasons people say quinn sucks are hillarious and 100% dead wrong

12 games is only about 1/3rd of the number of games you can decide about a QB before he's good or bad

@junkyard-dawg said:

Brady nation is always nervous. I hate to bash a fellow Brown but the guy didn't prove anything to me and I do not want to hear any bullshit that the guy needs more time. Im over him.