@metcalf said:

is just there for one last big payday before he retires for good. He might get them 8 wins one year before they buy him out to leave. But hope springs eternal in cleveland.

Go away.

@frankdell said:

it is funny to think so many people believe they can win.

it is the saddest franchise in the NFL - well maybe tied with the Lions as dumb and dumber.

When I can't get a steeler game, my second favorite team to watch is the browns. Watch them lose that is. The last couple years have been especially fun because of how inept they were. I'll tell you this, the Brown fans on this board got to be the greatest fans of any team. For them to support their team like they do as much as the clowns has been the joke of the league since they came back into the league, speaks of their loyalty. Now they have Holmgren and think he is the messiah. Holmgrem

is just there for one last big payday before he retires for good. He might get them 8 wins one year before they buy him out to leave. But hope springs eternal in cleveland.

it is funny to think so many people believe they can win.

it is the saddest franchise in the NFL - well maybe tied with the Lions as dumb and dumber.

@the-gipper said:

Thats what I meant, I'm not as good with words like you are.

Overall Ill give them a C+ When they are able to add a SB trophy next to the helmet then ill change my grade.

@metcalf said:

The colors are nice. They are earth tones. The colors of Fall. Football is played in the fall. Sure, Halloween colors. Pumpkin Orange, dirt brown. Football at its purest is played in the dirt and the mud. In the Fall. The Browns colors are the perfect football colors.

The size relationship of navigation is much better and the direction of what is featured versus what content is placed to the fold is a ton better.

I am glad they centered it finally.... lets see if they use the side wallpaper as design elements to enhance the center content in terms of both content and advertising....

Someone finally told them how wrong the old layout was.....

The only thing with this development team is they still went with Flash knowing the Iphone and the Ipad wont resolve flash...... with all of the mobile viewers that seems like a major mistake....

they could have used Javascipt to produce the same results and keep Ipad and Iphone users viewing their products.....

@mopaji said:

Well it's looks good. And there isn't a huge amount of competition so getting penalized for not validating shouldn't be a huge problem. I believe it is ranked higher then any Browns site. So it's not a deal breaker. Good site all around though.

@kosar_for_president said:

dammit

Bigger question, when is the Browns Board going to revamp our banner? All we're missing is Jamir Miller and Travis Prentice.

@7moses7 said:

Sweet, I like the colors. Orange for Halloween and Brown for Shit. Very appropriate!