@coltmccouch said:

I just want to know if Harrell is back in your camp.

I am making sub sandwhiches this week for lunch; will throw in some apples or pears as well....how about you all?

@unsympathetic said:

we used a 3rd. round pick on a QB that will yield the same results as Graham Harell.

@alendor said:

Harrel or about anyone actually has far more upside than ratliff but mangini seems to have an unrelenting stiffy for the ratty tat tat man...

You were right Alendor

@alendor said:

That's all I wanted to know. I hope he makes the team. He is every bit as good as Colt so he would be good to have in the event Colt were to go down in the future.

@jrex223 said:

I guess I'm missing the point, too. Am I a troll because my name references Tim Couch?

I think the Colt McCouch name is decently funny. Couch was a hell of a QB in college, and would have been a hell of a pro if we'd of had an offensive line.

@the-gipper said:

Actually, my belief is that if Colt McCoy is like Tim Couch he would be a pretty good QB. If TC had around him in terms of an O Line that McCoy could have around him with the likes of Joe Thomas/Steinbach/Mack TC would have had a much more profound career.

@the-gipper said:

I agree, but like many young, good QB's, when they get beat up over and over, they end up getting ruined.

If TC was drafted, by say, the Ravens or Pittsburgh, he'd be an all pro right now.

@jrex223 said:

Colt McCoy is not like Couch and he is not like bradford either for that matter. The teams that selected them were complete garbage and they have/had the job of being the savior. Quite honestly, so what if Colt McCoy doesnt work out... he was a late third round pick. Hes not expected to be the quarterback to lead a team to the superbowl, but he might have the ability to. If it doesnt work out, oh well, if it does, Holmgren will be a quarterback god...isnt he already?

Colt McCouch sounds like a spineless piece 0' crap though. You have that name and still wonder why the strange answer. At least fess up..

Actually, my belief is that if Colt McCoy is like Tim Couch he would be a pretty good QB. If TC had around him in terms of an O Line that McCoy could have around him with the likes of Joe Thomas/Steinbach/Mack TC would have had a much more profound career.

@alendor said:

if it was an attempt mock us it was so poor that it shouldn't have earned the right for you to even respond. theres nothing insulting about us giving an undrafted QB a shot in open tryouts, and then showing him the door when he wasn't any good. its even more pathetic if someone tries to use that as an insult. hence the benefit of the doubt

You're missing the point man. I took too many dips with this already, im out

if it was an attempt mock us it was so poor that it shouldn't have earned the right for you to even respond. theres nothing insulting about us giving an undrafted QB a shot in open tryouts, and then showing him the door when he wasn't any good. its even more pathetic if someone tries to use that as an insult. hence the benefit of the doubt

Im not making a big deal, I just kinda of put one and two together... It was more like thought out sentences rather than a strong reaction.

@alendor said:

It's the name, I thought he was a troll as well.

@coltmccouch said:

@jrex223 said:

Colt McCouch sounds like a spineless piece 0' crap though. You have that name and still wonder why the strange answer. At least fess up..

i don't see anything spineless about him based on a question, he asked a legitimate question. the fact that you have such a strong reaction to only the name he chose is really sad

Colt McCoy is not like Couch and he is not like bradford either for that matter. The teams that selected them were complete garbage and they have/had the job of being the savior. Quite honestly, so what if Colt McCoy doesnt work out... he was a late third round pick. Hes not expected to be the quarterback to lead a team to the superbowl, but he might have the ability to. If it doesnt work out, oh well, if it does, Holmgren will be a quarterback god...isnt he already?

Colt McCouch sounds like a spineless piece 0' crap though. You have that name and still wonder why the strange answer. At least fess up..

Of the 50 active leading passers in the NFL today, the Big 12 and or the state of Texas schools have produced only the following: (this is in terms of career completions):

#33 Josh McCown SMU

#34 Vince Young Texas

#47 Seneca Wallace Iowa St.

#50 Chris Simms Texas

(other than Young now, none are starters)

That is it for the entire Big 12 in the NFL today.

Compare to say the Big 10, which is not a big QB league, really which has:

#3 Kerry Collins Penn State

#6 Drew Brees Purdue

#7 Tom Brady Michigan

#27 Kyle Orton Purdue

(only a few, but top flight, though Collins may be on verge of retirement)

Hell, for that matter, compare the Mid American conference:

#11 Daunte Culpepper Central Florida (MAC school when he played)

#13 Chad Pennington Marshall (MAC when he played)

#17 Ben Roethlisberger Miami

#26 Byron Leftwich Marshall (MAC when he played)

#29 Charlie Batch Eastern Michigan

#42 Charlie Frye Akron

(don't forget that Josh Cribbs was a MAC QB)

Other conferences like the SEC, Pac 10, ACC, and Big East have a lot more QBs in the top 50 than the Big 12.

So, it is justified to be a little skeptical of these Big 12 guys.

@coltmccouch said:

Maybe it is your screen name?

Maybe it is because we are wary that Colt McCoy will be like Harrell....one of those Big 12/Southwest QBs that put up all kinds of big numbers in the pinball football that they sometimes play in that conference but which does not translate to the NFL. I mean from Andre Ware to Eric Crouch to Jason White to Harrell etc. etc. etc.

Let's ask this question: Who was the last decent NFL QB to come out of the Big 12 or the Texas/Oklahoma area.

I mean, I can't think of any since Bobby Layne and Sammy Baugh. Bradford may have been picked #1, but he hasn't proven a thing

Can any of you think of one?

The guy that wadnt a diva that held out 2 months because crazy al took spmeone before him?

The guy mike leach pimped all the way to canada?

Has leach found a job yet?