<![CDATA[Can Mangini groom Joe Haden to be a top CB in the NFL]]>http://bleacherreport.com/articles/394994-...-darrelle-revis

New Cleveland Browns cornerback Joe Haden was drafted in the first round to help reinforce a defensive secondary that has been more than porous over the past few years.

Haden may not start in 2010, unless he can beat out current starter Eric Wright, but never say never when it comes to competition in the NFL because it brings out the best in players.

Back in 2007, when Browns' head coach Eric Mangini was coaching the New York Jets, cornerback Darrelle Revis was drafted in the first round to help rebuild the Jets' secondary, and three seasons later Revis is one of the top cover corners in the NFL today.

Now this is just a loose comparison between a rookie and a two-time Pro Bowler, but Haden's future looks to be bright since his scouting reports coming into the NFL are very similar to the ones that Revis had coming into the NFL as well.

. . . Mangini helped groom Revis in two years with the Jets, and last season Revis broke out to become one of the best. Revis didn't have too long to learn the NFL system and game speed since he was immediately inserted into the starting lineup on day one. Haden will actually have the benefit of competing for a starting job and getting mentored by veteran cornerback Sheldon Brown, who has reportedly already started teaching Haden the pro game.

Brown, Wright, and Haden are a solid combo going into the 2010 season, and with a veteran on board to teach both Wright, who has never had a veteran mentor in his pro career so far, and Haden, the secondary will only be better prepared for this year.

If it takes Haden three years to finally have a dominating, break out year like Revis did in 2009 and makes a Pro Bowl in his second year as did Revis, then he will be worth the high first round pick that was used by the Browns to select him the 2010 NFL draft.

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@cambridgeho said:

He looks like he is the type we need here in Cleveland, but can he f^&n destroy people on the football field? that is the question. Cant wait for the season to start.

i know he destroyed people in college. hopefully that will continue in the nfl. and yes, i can't wait for the season to start to.

also, i think his past injuries have been blown out of proiportion. he had a surgery in high school and another in his freshman year in college (if i remember correctly), but the rest of his injuries were just normal stuff that anybody gets while playing all season long. we shall see.

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@sj_browns said:

this is slightly off subject, but it relates to the browns secondary. did anyone see tj ward on tv sunday nite? he was on abao with bruce drennan, then he was on wkyc chan 3's sports wrap up show. he seems like a real humble guy and really fits what holmgren, heckert and mangini want. i came away quite impressed with him after viewing both of his interviews. i've heard him in an interview before, but these were more in depth so i gained an even larger amount of respect for him.

He looks like he is the type we need here in Cleveland, but can he f^&n destroy people on the football field? that is the question. Cant wait for the season to start.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/175140https://brownsboard.com/post/175140Tue, 25 May 2010 03:54:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can Mangini groom Joe Haden to be a top CB in the NFL on Tue, 25 May 2010 03:46:37 GMT]]>this is slightly off subject, but it relates to the browns secondary. did anyone see tj ward on tv sunday nite? he was on abao with bruce drennan, then he was on wkyc chan 3's sports wrap up show. he seems like a real humble guy and really fits what holmgren, heckert and mangini want. i came away quite impressed with him after viewing both of his interviews. i've heard him in an interview before, but these were more in depth so i gained an even larger amount of respect for him.

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@daddybull1 said:

Wright will have to earn his starting position...

He may have been our best corner last year but that was not a very good secondary...

He was sort of the validictorian of summer school, the best among a suspect group of players...

In any case, our secondary should be vastly improved as compared to last year.....

Wish we still had Mel Tucker as our DB coach.... He was pretty solid in that position but in over his head as a coordinator....

Peace

T.Dawg

i think tucker was good, but the browns current db coach (jerome henderson) is just as good.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/175134https://brownsboard.com/post/175134Tue, 25 May 2010 03:33:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can Mangini groom Joe Haden to be a top CB in the NFL on Mon, 24 May 2010 11:35:35 GMT]]>Corner has become a 3 man position.

Be it "starter' or nickel, Haden is going to be on the field a great deal.

Think how many times over the last 3-4 years we have seen our 3rd CB getting burned....seemed like a lot of plays to me. Lot's of no talent no names were lined up at the position.

Joe brings a element this team has lacked for a long time....solid play with a winners attitude.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/174998https://brownsboard.com/post/174998Mon, 24 May 2010 11:35:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can Mangini groom Joe Haden to be a top CB in the NFL on Mon, 24 May 2010 04:14:17 GMT]]>Wright will have to earn his starting position...

He may have been our best corner last year but that was not a very good secondary...

He was sort of the validictorian of summer school, the best among a suspect group of players...

In any case, our secondary should be vastly improved as compared to last year.....

Wish we still had Mel Tucker as our DB coach.... He was pretty solid in that position but in over his head as a coordinator....

Peace

T.Dawg

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Rorbotron said:

Mangini if you ask me had VERY LITTLE to do with Revis. Revis is a athletic freak and didn't really come in to his own until this season under Ryan and even then I don't know that Ryan had much to do with it either.

Wrong. The jump from the 2007 Revis to the 2008 Revis was substantial. I was there.

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@choco said:

haden will start this year....at NB. which is even better for him....

i think so to. bring him along slowly and let him grow in the system.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/174942https://brownsboard.com/post/174942Sun, 23 May 2010 18:54:21 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can Mangini groom Joe Haden to be a top CB in the NFL on Sun, 23 May 2010 18:29:16 GMT]]>haden will start this year....at NB. which is even better for him....

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@feartheroo said:

It says he may not start in 2010? and he would have to beat out Eric Wright for a starting position. I'm not too knowledgeable about defensive formations but don't they usually use at least 2 CB's most of the time? I just assumed both of them would be starting from game 1...

the writer of the article was kind of vague, but in a round about way he said sheldon brown was a lock to start. when i read this part of the article, i assumed that's what he meant:

Haden will actually have the benefit of competing for a starting job and getting mentored by veteran cornerback Sheldon Brown, who has reportedly already started teaching Haden the pro game.
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@hoorta said:

RE: Hayden- year or two? Pencil the guy in opening day as the starter opposite Wright. Guaranteed.

If you watched any of the Sports Science clip, Hayden is an athletic freak.

I saw the clip and was amazed at his ability.

this was the line I was talking about, it doesn't really make sense.

Haden may not start in 2010, unless he can beat out current starter Eric Wright, but never say never when it comes to competition in the NFL because it brings out the best in players

Wright and Haden will both be starting in 2010..if anything Haden would have to beat out Sheldon Brown or even Brandon McDonald, but Wright is our #1 at this point.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/174905https://brownsboard.com/post/174905Sun, 23 May 2010 05:47:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can Mangini groom Joe Haden to be a top CB in the NFL on Sun, 23 May 2010 05:32:25 GMT]]>RE: Hayden- year or two? Pencil the guy in opening day as the starter opposite Wright. Guaranteed.

If you watched any of the Sports Science clip, Hayden is an athletic freak.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/174904https://brownsboard.com/post/174904Sun, 23 May 2010 05:32:25 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can Mangini groom Joe Haden to be a top CB in the NFL on Sun, 23 May 2010 05:31:14 GMT]]>It says he may not start in 2010? and he would have to beat out Eric Wright for a starting position. I'm not too knowledgeable about defensive formations but don't they usually use at least 2 CB's most of the time? I just assumed both of them would be starting from game 1...

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/174903https://brownsboard.com/post/174903Sun, 23 May 2010 05:31:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can Mangini groom Joe Haden to be a top CB in the NFL on Sun, 23 May 2010 05:00:50 GMT]]>Revis didn't have too long to learn the NFL system and game speed since he was immediately inserted into the starting lineup on day one.

the only complaint that revis had in regards to mangini was that he was too strict on the team. i guess revis doesn't realize that the whole strict thing (more commonly known as discipline) had a very positive effect on players like him.

there's no way a rookie like revis just comes into the nfl and develops on his own (and goes to the pro bowl in his 2nd year) without the help of his coach. especially under the circumstances that revis was under during his rookie year (see quote above). the article in my op says mangini groomed revis and imho, there's no reason to believe other wise.

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Rorbotron said:

Mangini if you ask me had VERY LITTLE to do with Revis. Revis is a athletic freak and didn't really come in to his own until this season under Ryan and even then I don't know that Ryan had much to do with it either.

If you ask me coaching has A LOT to do with how most of the players in the NFL turned out and will turn out. How many guys have been labeled great athletes during college/combine only to fizzle out in the NFL?

I'm not saying that Haden will be another Revis and I'm sure Revis's athletic ability had a good deal to do with how great of a player he is now but I think coaching helped him out more than you want to give credit.

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@sj_browns said:

edit: mangini was the db coach for the pats from 00-04. that explains why he was able to groom revis so well. i don't think mangini will have a hard time getting haden on track to be a good cb.

Mangini if you ask me had VERY LITTLE to do with Revis. Revis is a athletic freak and didn't really come in to his own until this season under Ryan and even then I don't know that Ryan had much to do with it either.

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@cambridgeho said:

Here's to hoping in 2 years we will have a badass secondary. I think this year we will be much better, there will be young safeties getting beat, but they will learn from it. I cant wait till TJ ward blows up a running back this year, that man can hit.

the secondary is one of the areas i'll be watching closely. i think the browns secondary will be much improved from seasons past. if the browns d can keep the pressure coming from it's front 7 (like they started to do near the end of the season) and their secondary becomes more solid, WATCH OUT!!

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/174871https://brownsboard.com/post/174871Sat, 22 May 2010 20:03:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can Mangini groom Joe Haden to be a top CB in the NFL on Sat, 22 May 2010 19:53:10 GMT]]>Here's to hoping in 2 years we will have a badass secondary. I think this year we will be much better, there will be young safeties getting beat, but they will learn from it. I cant wait till TJ ward blows up a running back this year, that man can hit.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/174869https://brownsboard.com/post/174869Sat, 22 May 2010 19:53:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can Mangini groom Joe Haden to be a top CB in the NFL on Sat, 22 May 2010 19:59:06 GMT]]>edit: mangini was the db coach for the pats from 00-04. that explains why he was able to groom revis so well. i don't think mangini will have a hard time getting haden on track to be a good cb.

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