@legacy-fan said:

It was: Don't post a clip on a rival's board of a controversial (I think it was late, but I could be swayed either way) hit made by one of your players, then get all pissy when we call it a cheap shot.

Nobody is whining about anything, dude.

Hmm... OK I see your point , But like I said if its a waste IGNORE IT. Then it will just Fade to the back pages. I will retract the whining label !

( Is there something wrong with , "Dude " ?) If so ...So very sorry Boss...

FREAKofSTEEL08 said:

Not surprisingly, you missed my point.

It was: Don't post a clip on a rival's board of a controversial (I think it was late, but I could be swayed either way) hit made by one of your players, then get all pissy when we call it a cheap shot.

Nobody is whining about anything, dude.

@legacy-fan said:

Quit whining dude... If its not of Interest to you IGNORE the post ! That will KILL IT !

@da-burgh said:

This was good old fashion football. Good thing you guys aren't watching the game 40 years ago, you'd say every hit was cheap.

Sure it was a bit unecessary, I'm sure Tomlin is telling Clark that next time he should hit Wes, just "not so hard"

Im sure Wes is a nice guy don't hurt him!!!! If any safety on your team could/would hit this hard, you've love it.

You pansies are unreal.

How about you post the clip on your board, and if we want to come over and see how amazing your safety is, we will.

@da-burgh said:

Wow, that'll be painfully embaressing.

Quit while you're behind, DieHard. You just got owned by a guy who can't even spell.

@diehardbrownsfan said:

It'll be a sad day when all I have to look forward to is another team losing.

Wow, that'll be painfully embaressing.

This was good old fashion football. Good thing you guys aren't watching the game 40 years ago, you'd say every hit was cheap.

Sure it was a bit unecessary, I'm sure Tomlin is telling Clark that next time he should hit Wes, just "not so hard"

Im sure Wes is a nice guy don't hurt him!!!! If any safety on your team could/would hit this hard, you'd love it.

You pansies are unreal.

@diehardbrownsfan said:

Sounds like it may be the only thing you have to look forward to the rest of your sad pathetic life, you impoverished maternal fornicator. I am not a "fag", though I guess it is a kind of gay voyeurism when I watch the Browns get a new one ripped twice a year by the Steelers. Your Santorum runs as red as Heinz ketchup.

Tell me, when they fire Crennel the day after the Steelers game later this month, will they get rid of the whole staff or will they keep the team gynecologist?

@razor1414 said:

I believe it was when Brian Russell laid out Chad "Ocho Cinco" Johnson.

@diehardbrownsfan said:

Typical "candy ass" believeland fan.... This is what you do evey year?? ..ISN'T IT JERKOFF!!! Since your pathetic loser franchise never makes the freaking Playoffs , you root against the Team that "bitch slaps" the sorry group of losers you follow as a football team every year ..That is a sure sign of a pathetic loser ..Misery loves company and your sorry ass has been miserable as a Professional Football fan for Decades . Make sure when you are done reading this , you stand up so you can get some oxygen to your brain ...sitting on it all day like that can cause brain damage ,you freaking "fag"..Now all at once you idiot ..What's that famous "believeland" rant??? "Wait 'til next year " ..yeah , right moron ...the Stains will suck next year too and THAT makes everybody outside of that shithole aka Cleveland, Ohio ---very "satisfied"

@wpb-dawg-fan said:

Was it a good play? Hell yeah! That is the kind of play the Browns NEVER make...and why other teams run roughshod over the middle of our defense.

It wasn't to the head....it wasn't late...but it certainly sent the message...and the only message the Browns LB's and DB's are sending is "come on in...waters fine".

HIT PEOPLE. After a while they don't come over the middle. If they start again. HIT THEM AGAIN!!!

Be honest...if that was a Browns player laying out a guy from any other team...we would be ooohing and aaahhing for month!!!

I agree.

Doesn't mean it wasn't over the line or cheap. As I said when he can lay the wood like that to a TE or larger WR, I won't give him shit. He knew the ball wasn't going to be caught.

It was a good hit, just not a good clean hit.

@wpb-dawg-fan said:

Was it a good play? Hell yeah! That is the kind of play the Browns NEVER make...and why other teams run roughshod over the middle of our defense.

It wasn't to the head....it wasn't late...but it certainly sent the message...and the only message the Browns LB's and DB's are sending is "come on in...waters fine".

HIT PEOPLE. After a while they don't come over the middle. If they start again. HIT THEM AGAIN!!!

Be honest...if that was a Browns player laying out a guy from any other team...we would be ooohing and aaahhing for month!!!

EXACTLY dude... You are Dead on. Thats my point to that other Guy. If you guys want the Browns D ..to be a Force. They have to instill FEAR in the Opponents ! Only way to do that is to HIT The POOP Outta them. Spin back to the Original Dawg-Pound D ! Them dudes were PRICKS !!! I Hated The Johnson LBS Minnefield...Felix Wright Clay Matthews ! Even Webster Slaughter ooohhh...I Hated them dudes....Slaughter was like Hines Ward a little Punk who ran around making plays and creating Havoc ! Get Mean ...the opponents KNOW its gonna be a Long Day!

@wpb-dawg-fan said:

Was it a good play? Hell yeah! That is the kind of play the Browns NEVER make...and why other teams run roughshod over the middle of our defense.

It wasn't to the head....it wasn't late...but it certainly sent the message...and the only message the Browns LB's and DB's are sending is "come on in...waters fine".

HIT PEOPLE. After a while they don't come over the middle. If they start again. HIT THEM AGAIN!!!

Be honest...if that was a Browns player laying out a guy from any other team...we would be ooohing and aaahhing for month!!!

my point exactly. could not agree more

Was it a good play? Hell yeah! That is the kind of play the Browns NEVER make...and why other teams run roughshod over the middle of our defense.

It wasn't to the head....it wasn't late...but it certainly sent the message...and the only message the Browns LB's and DB's are sending is "come on in...waters fine".

HIT PEOPLE. After a while they don't come over the middle. If they start again. HIT THEM AGAIN!!!

Be honest...if that was a Browns player laying out a guy from any other team...we would be ooohing and aaahhing for month!!!

@dtbh said:

There's a fine line between playing dirty and playing hard, and YINZ cross that line with regularity every game.

Dude you are a Puzzy.... And need to watch WWF..its all scripted ...nobody will get "Hurt"... These guys KNOW what they signed up for. DEFENSE is "Wicked and mean", dude ...or...its ineffective !!! and btw ...no way..shape or form did Clark "TRY" to injure Welker ! Its called FOOTBALL...a Tight game against a good team and every 1st down counts !

FREAKofSTEEL08 said:

Nah...Clark didn't "see the trajectory and think he wasn't going to get there before the ball." What he saw was an oppurtunity to injure a defenseless receiver after the ball wasn't caught and he thought he could get away with it. And he did. But it's still dirty.

My point is, Clark knew the pass was going to be incomplete. He made the decision to try and injure Welker anyway.

There's a fine line between playing dirty and playing hard, and YINZ cross that line with regularity every game.

@buck-the-frowns said:

And what is unnecessary roughness anyway? Since it's the Cheatriots, other teams have to be brutal to overcome their espionage, making all roughness necessary.

Hey, inbred steeler fag. The only thing I have to look forward to in Football the rest of the season is to see you inbreds lose in the playoffs. I hope you make it far, and then lose. It will give me satisfaction.

@dtbh said:

Your a typical Dumbarse... The ball was tipped in Flight, Clark seen the trajectory , knew he wasn't gonna beat the ball there and When for the Hit. Its called FOOTBALL. If your DBs thought like this your pass D would be all the better for it ! Seems I just seen Crocker bust one of our Receivers like this a couple weeks back... He didn't stay in Cleveland ??? Must have wanted to PLAY FOOTBALL !

@thomas5737 said:

Watch the video. Welker's head hits the ground at the same time the ball does. I am sick of hits like this being penalized. As one who watched the Steelers-Browns games in the 70's I can say that if they threw flags on hits like that back then, there would have been penalties on both teams on half the plays. Guys would have paid more than their salary in fines. Maybe they should just tie pink ribbons around QBs and receivers so everyone knows they are not to be hit. Let them play the game. Flag for a late hit but not for good aggressive football. Remember, Turkey Jones' famous sacking of Bradshaw, which fractured his collar bone and put him out for weeks, wasn't even flagged and I don't remember anyone complaining much about it.

And what is unnecessary roughness anyway? Since it's the Cheatriots, other teams have to be brutal to overcome their espionage, making all roughness necessary.

@tobalaz said:

Whether or not the hit is necessary is a different question.

Should we penalize clean hits that are unnecessary?

Yep, it's called "Unecessary Roughness"...

No play on the ball.

Defenseless receiver.

Defender could have tried to pull up... But didn't.

What if Welker had suffered a life threatening or debilitating injury... Still ok?

I like big hits, blocks etc... But that was Unecessary

@rr59eagle said:

Well there was a slight difference there, Holmes actually caught the ball and was tackled, Welker's shot came after the ball was tipped and on the ground 10 yards away from Welker.