@the-hawg said:

For all the stuff that has been said about this incident, I was watching the NFL netwoerk tonight and saw the play again. I had not previously realized that the throw down came AFTER bpth of Delhomme's knees were on the ground. He actually threw Delhomme to the ground when Jake was in a kneeling position, having already been tackled by Suh.

Having seen the real extent of Suh's actions, I have how moved from being uneasy about Suh's actions to whatever has been done by the league is a mere pittance of what should have been done.

The penalty should have been more severe. It was just a down-right dirty play. Jake could have been seriously injured but I was glad to see him pop right up and not lay around on the ground for 15 minutes like todays athletes like to do. All of that being said I wish we had Suh!!

Mary Kay Cabot, The Plain Dealer

CLEVELAND -- Detroit Lions rookie defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh fined $7,500 for roughing Browns quarterback Jake Delhomme and then unnecessarily throwing him to the ground, an NFL spokesman said

Suh grabbed Delhomme's facemask, wrenched his neck and then threw him to the ground headfirst. He drew a 15-yard facemask penalty for the infraction and Delhomme went on to throw a TD pass two plays later.

Neither Detroit's Kyle Vanden Bosch or Cleveland David Viekune were fined for their roughing penalties.

Browns quarterback Seneca Wallace had said the move could've injured Delhomme and that he felt it warranted a suspension.

Formerly Stone said:

You girls need to get your panties out of your hoo hoo!

There may be 100 actions that are out of bounds. Not quite so blatant as that usually though.

The real question is: why are you getting your panties in a bunch defending him. The guy committed a personal foul, he got called for it. He may get called on the carpet again for it. Maybe not. So be it. If he continues that behavior the other NFL players will engage in what they call "self-corrective measures" by probably going for the dudes needs.

Again, why are you defending him. I said I like the guy and his atttitude, just that he can't take it overboard like he did here.

@dawgpoundpitt said:

So you mean let's all wait until he HURTS someone before trying to show him defense doesn't mean "de-head"!

Formerly Stone said:

You girls need to get your panties out of your hoo hoo!

If there are so many that are this similar, then name some. If that's the case, isn't there headlines like the Suh/Delhomme incident all the time?

You talk like you're the man and know everything. Your smug attitude is lame and you aren't entitled to anything. But please, continue to post the panties phrase over and over. It's very original.

For all the stuff that has been said about this incident, I was watching the NFL netwoerk tonight and saw the play again. I had not previously realized that the throw down came AFTER bpth of Delhomme's knees were on the ground. He actually threw Delhomme to the ground when Jake was in a kneeling position, having already been tackled by Suh.

Having seen the real extent of Suh's actions, I have how moved from being uneasy about Suh's actions to whatever has been done by the league is a mere pittance of what should have been done.

@brownsfan_althaus said:

exactly! i think all of us browns fans love a rough and tough d, but not to the point where it's counter productive. there's no excuse for what suh did and his actions shouldn't be praised. this rookie has to learn to play within the the nfl's rules. his intentions were right, but his excecution was wrong. dude looked like he had freaking roid rage lol.

@next2nothing said:

Also, there's a difference between having a "headhunter" mindset and trying to really rip the guys head off. Delhomme wasn't hurt but that doesn't negate the fact that Suh could have easily hurt him or ended his career with that bullshit move. I like the intensity but you don't twist someone's head around then throw him to the ground.

bingo!

@dawgpoundpitt said:

I don't think he should be suspended either but I do think a fine is in order.

Also, there's a difference between having a "headhunter" mindset and trying to really rip the guys head off. Delhomme wasn't hurt but that doesn't negate the fact that Suh could have easily hurt him or ended his career with that bullshit move. I like the intensity but you don't twist someone's head around then throw him to the ground.

@massbrownsfan said:

Cool logo MassBrownfan. Don't think I have seen that one before.

Formerly Stone said:

Yes, he probably did. The simple point being that he was out of bounds with his actions. That is all we are saying. Do you disagree with that?

Formerly Stone said:

I think it is good to have players with a nasty attitude. And this guy will be a good player, and heaven knows the Lions need someone with a nasty attitude.

In other words, I essentially agree with you. The Browns could use a guy like him. Nevertheless, if a player commits a cheap shot like this and causes the team harm with a penalty...and a possible suspension (though I doubt that would happen) he has to be called on it. The calling consists of "keep the attitude, just do things within the bounds of the rules so that the team doesn't get hurt"

Homotron said:

I'm not going to go out and say Jake's the greatest. And yes, I'm going to mention preseason. He has been great this preseason:

38/48 (79.2% completion) and a 110.5 qb rating.

He has also been passing the ball around to our less than stellar WR's. He has been able to throw to 10 different receivers in a half.

Granted yes, preseason, but if the trend continues I think he'll be a "damn good" qb this season. But all I'm hoping for is him to be a good one (minus the damn).

AND... I would not be happy if we had a d lineman who plays dirty. That's the exact kind of thing we're trying to get away from, STUPID penalties. We already have a bad enough D and turn the ball over enough. We don't need to be giving up 15 yards for free.

AND... I'm pissed that our O line didn't back Jake up. I saw no one stand beside Jake after that.

Formerly Stone said:

To some maybe, but not to most. And don't tell me they're wouldn't be some backwater Steeler fans who wouldn't think it was just hunky-dory if one of your guys pulled the same stunt on an opposing qb.

Suh's gonna learn what goes around, comes around. Like chop & crackback blocks. He's a smart kid- once he starts getting fined, he'll learn to tone down his act.

And times have changed- if anyone pulled the Turkey Jones head spike done on Bradshaw today, they'd get suspended 4 games minimum, plus a max fine.

@gips said:

Alright, come on. A damn good QB? Based on what? The last time he did anything was YEARS ago. Carolina won't regret letting him go. Yes I'm a Steeler fan but if he were a Packer, Patriot, Jet whatever I'd say the same thing. He's past being "damn good" well past. Classy guy though, I'll absolutely give you that much.

Formerly Stone said:

He might be a hero if it was a Steeler QB I have to admit

Formerly Stone said:

This coming from a jackass whose team had four personal foul penalties in one half against Denver, not too mention having a player the previous week getting tossed after what, 4 plays???

LOL - keep on making an ass out of yourself, buddy - it is quite amusing.

Formerly Stone said:

We like guys that will take a QBs head off clean like rogers not cheap shots like suh took..

Its the stooler fans that like dirty football but you would already know that...