LOL

@lambert_58 said:

No. He was waived by the Jets.

where and why did you dig this up for?

What a pessimistic LOSER!

No Cowher, No Marty - so roll up in a ball and die? I thought people from Cleveland had some more balls than this - How about finding a young no name coach - Mike Tomlin or the guy in Atlanta, or even Cowher when he was hired - the next Browns coach is a guy whose name you dont know pal - write that down - if they are smart.

Put it in perspective:

Your company is tanking...their are talks about layoffs...you WERE on of the leaders in the company, but now you are having your worst year in the job. That alone sucks.

Now, imagine every time you go out in public somebody REMINDS you how much you suck...call you every name in the book...and then go after your parents/family as well. And then...a bunch of reporters keep shoving mics in your face asking you how you feel.

I know these guys are payed a TON of money...but that kind of shit wears on anybody. Sure, he should suck it up...but let's face it....if we were in that position there is a better than 50/50 chance we not only say the types of things HE is saying...but start dropping f-bombs on the a-hole reporters who won't leave us alone.

Is it any wonder none of the Browns 'top players' haven't gotten into a scuffle with some drunk/ignorant fan that doesn't know when enough is enough?

Like I said, I am not saying he is RIGHT for making these comments. He should KNOW they are going to be blown out of proportion....

BUT I CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE HE IS COMING FROM.

I think what Shitnears is trying to say is that he would rather have Hines Ward....and I agree with him. Braylon Edwards has all the skill in the world with no heart - the antithesis of Hines Ward.

@riffer-x said:

Really cant argue with that.

Maybe I just wanted him to be better then he is. I just want the Browns to win.

I do not want to trade or get rid of one of our few top players but I also dont want him being the bad apple next year that spoils the lot. I just hope we get a coach in here that can get these players heads on straight.

BE shut up and play football.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/12/17/...t-of-cleveland/

Both agree BE has no beef.

Kornheiser saying "he looks good, he speaks well, he likes the media, he had great stats and went to the ProBowl last year, BUT he's dropped a million passes this year. Does he expect to be rewarded for it?!"

Come on man!!

He is upset with how fans treat him. But, the reality is that it all gets cured with winning. The fans and media will all tell him how great he is and he will be happy.

My point is that if you trade him you will not get value for him. You could trade him straight up for burress I guess. Trade your problem for theirs. Other than that the chances that you will get anywhere near equal value are about the same chances that DA will start for the Browns next year.

Hope that he gets thicker skin and that the fans forgive him for being a fat head. Don't blow the team up. Get new coaches and fix a few spots with FA's and draft picks. Could get some real great LBs from USC in rounds 1 and 2.

I think with a new coaching staff and a few key additions and the Browns could make a playoff run. I know the schedule is not easy next year either but it is not as brutal as this year. I could see 9 or 10 wins next year with the right coaching staff and a few additions.

"I'm not Paul Warfield, Webster Slaughter or Jim Brown. I've given my all to this city for four years, and I realize it will never be enough. I went to the Pro Bowl last year and resurrected this team from the darkness, and nobody cared."

"People in this town believe they are entitled to too much. They have been disrespectful to me and my family. I've gone out in public with my family and have had to deal with being called foul names. My parents have been called vulgar things at restaurants."

"My biggest problem is that I actually give a damn. I'm always rushing back from surgeries and injuries, never missing games or practices. But through this, I've learned how to overcome adversity. I'm also proud of how my foundation has taken off. I’ve been doing all this community service in Cleveland … my charity efforts will only be in Detroit from now on."

With that said.

I would not trade BE, blowing everything up right now would only get you less in return than what you have. BE showed last year that he can be great. And yes he and K2 were great with DA throwing the ball.

BE dropped balls last year also, they just did not have the effect that the balls have had this year. Last year the team was winning and the offense was rolling so people did not notice the drops as much. As a matter of fact I think there was some post by lum about drops and the effect on completion percentage. If I recall I think that the Browns had like 2 or 3 people in the top 7 in drops last year. But the receivers that topped the list (along with BE) were the top receivers in football.

This year BE's drops have effected the team more because they were in more critical times and the team is not winning. The Drop against the Cowboys caused a major turn in momentum as well as the one in the second game against the Ravens. I know there were also many in situations that would have kept drives alive. But, K2 drops the ball also and they both dropped the ball last year. But, the main reason people are bitching is because the offense sucks and the team is losing.

The Browns need to keep BE, Stallworth and K2. Start BQ and give them all preseason with a new coaching staff and see where it leads. The wonderful thing for the Organization is that if they start BQ the fan base will give them a few more years to grow. The fans will be more forgiving if BQ is the QB. Get some depth for the OL and a few free agents and the offense still has allot of potential. Use the Draft and free agency to get some defensive help.

As an organization you can not panic. Don't blow the team up. Trade DA for a 3rd rounder. Fire the coaching staff. Sign some free agents and prepair for the draft. The Browns still have 3 very good receivers that pretty much all had bad years. If you trade one of the three it would have to be K2, because you have people that can replace him. There is nobody that you have or could get in a trade that could replace BE. And I think you have to give stallworth one more year if it is not too big a cap hit.

Who else is a relentless DA supporter here?

Who else can't stand BQ?

Lumburgh is someone already here under a different name.

Just a hunch but a DA fan from Oregon would have been long gone by now unless they were already a regular here.

If I'm wrong, then Lumburgh is one long-distance homo for the blind infatuation he has for this guy.

He used to have a point every now and then. Recently, he's been reduced to the board douche bag. Its pathetic, but fun to watch.

On a related note, we may have to endure him for a long time. Willard Scott recognized a centinarian today from Corvallis and she was 110!! Unreal.

FREAKofSTEEL08 said:

You really have no idea wtf you are talking about....but that doesn't surprise me. Edwards will never be great.....he is personally responsible, in my opinion, for the way our season went. He is paid to catch the ball....just as he stated in this interview...not touch it.....not almost catch it...not catch it while stepping out of bounds. He is an immature punk, who contributed heavily to the losing. I will guarantee, that if a decent HC comes in here, Edwards will catch the ball or be gone. Euther way will make me happy.

@lumbergh said:

This bullshit argument is for the truly sincerely "GAY FOR BQ" crowd who learned to break down QB play sometime after watching DA toss 29 TDs and then dreaming that it was easy.

The idea that a QB causes a WR to be afraid to catch the ball is similar to saying that there's a single BQ fan who remembers the real reason BQ got pulled vs the Texans (no it was not the owie on his fingie).

The real reason WPB makes these twisted subjective claims promoting BQ love and DA hate is that he is SCARED SHITLESS that whoever the new coach is will keep DA on the team which would mean that the golden boy would once again have his ass planted on the bench, or worse yet, traded to the Chiefs.

And again...you whiff. It is a shame all our old stuff is gone...because otherwise I would tell you to go back and look at my posts. I HATE ND. I was AGAINST drafting BQ. I was AGAINST putting him in all of 2007. I was AGAINST putting him in until the second half of the season and DA had proven he couldn't get this team going...and it was apparent he was NOT the answer.

So, if that is gay love....I confess.

However, when a guy is failing miserably and you continue to back him despite over an entire seasons worth of below average play confirms that he is failing miserably and that guy just happens to come from your home town...well...THAT IS COMPLETE HOMERISM...and you have no place to call anyone anything.

Buck up smiley, he may go to Seattle...so it would be in your own time zone and you can drool over him more often.

@lumbergh said:

K2 would get 100 balls if BQ was the QB. Just like when Frye was there, Kellen is the checkdown receiver of a Dink and Dunker's dreams.

I guess that explains his 82 receptions last year?

@wpb-dawg-fan said:

K2 could get us that type of receiver in trade.

If BQ is the QB then no need to trade K2. He is incredible at standing 3 yds past the line of scrimmage in between two LBs.

K2 would get 100 balls if BQ was the QB. Just like when Frye was there, Kellen is the checkdown receiver of a Dink and Dunker's dreams.