@the-gipper said:

As much as I hate to say it, one school that the Browns have been somewhat successful drafting from since 1999 is Mucking Fichigan. Braylon Edwards IS a Pro Bowl talent...but without Pro Bowl brains. And Aaron Shea was a pretty good TE in his time here. They were better than the OSU WR/TE combo that was drafted.

I think you are right sir. My predeliction to SEC style football doesn't necessarily translate to Browns football all of the time. MoMass is a good example here. I also meant no offense to any other conference (I can see how one might take such given how I worded that, my apologies).

I'll try to state my idea another way: If we consistently draft players from winning schools, such as Bama, LSUx, Ole Miss (even I'm surprised by how many pros we have), USC, Miami, Ohio State, etc etc.. then our chances of hitting on a prospect in the draft go up due to the fact that the prospect has "paid his dues" at a power program and with a power schedule. It just so happens that lately, the SEC has had more of these types of players. In other words, a guy like Ray Rice can put a school like Rutgers on the map for a while, giving other prospects there more exposure and airtime. That doesn't necessarily make them as good as players from big schools. Would we rather have a center in the 5th round from Boise State or from Florida State?

Hope that came out better.

Edit: Also to your point Gipper, look at the SEC schools we've drafted from. I'd take a guy from Florida or Bama over a guy from MsState or Vanderbilt almost every time (no offense to Vandy fans, screw State).

@kybrown said:

OK, I have decided. I have decided you are wrong. Picking the wrong players has been a problem, regardless of which conference they are from.

As much as I hate to say it, one school that the Browns have been somewhat successful drafting from since 1999 is Mucking Fichigan. Braylon Edwards IS a Pro Bowl talent...but without Pro Bowl brains. And Aaron Shea was a pretty good TE in his time here. They were better than the OSU WR/TE combo that was drafted.

@brownrebel said:

I'll probably get booed off of the board for this one.

Its not that, but did you look at the list? They picked up as many players from the SEC as anywhere. And a lot of those were duds. And, if you notice, two of their 4 Pro Bowlers on this list came from the Big Ten. And another from the MAC. Maybe they really needed more Big Ten and MAC players.

@theclevelandsound said:

I agree we haven't seen much production from him, but he is speedy. I think the point to be made with MoMass is that he wasn't a #1 WR at UGA (AJ Green), and we are expecting him to be WR1 here (also, arguably our best pass catcher right now is Ben Watson, UGA).

I'm simply saying that teams like the Chiefs are turning their fates around with SEC speed (Tyson Jackson, Dexter McCluster, Javier Arenas, Kendrick Lewis). I think we should follow suit.

@brownrebel said:

I'll probably get booed off of the board for this one.

Not Boo'ed. But MoMass is SEC...haven't seen any speed from him.

I'll probably get booed off of the board for this one.

Or maybe we should draft their coaches........

@the-gipper said:

Jack Lambert

James Harrison

Josh Cribbs

Antonio Gates.

Of these, ONLY Lambert was drafted. The other 3 were all undrafted free agents.

And, FYI, the team over the years that has been most enamored of drafting Kent State players?:

The Atlanta Falcons

Players they took: Willie Asbury 1966 (love that name, sounds like a pool shark), Eugene Baker 1999, Bob Hallen 1998, OJ Santiago 1997, Gerald Tinker 1979, Mike Zele 1979

The Falcons have drafted 6 Kent State players over the years. NO other team has drafted more than 2. The teams that have drafted 2:

The Browns: Rich Mostadi 1960, Larry Poole 1975

The Steelers: Lou Harris 1968, Jack Lambert 1974

The Saints: Usama Young 2007, Keno Hills 1996

No other team has ever drafted more than one Kent Stater in their history.

The main reason Kent State produces good players is good coaching from Doug Martin and the other coaches here. Look in the past decade:

Antonio Gates (San Diego)

Josh Cribbs (Cleveland)

James Harrison (Pittsburgh)

Daniel Muir (Indianapolis)

Usama Young (New Orleans)

Abe Elam (Cleveland)

Julian Edelman (New England)

There are a few more but nothing worth mentioning. 6 of 7 start in the NFL.

@theclevelandsound said:

Why bother drafting them? In history the following Kent State alumni have gone to a Pro Bowl:

Jack Lambert

James Harrison

Josh Cribbs

Antonio Gates.

Of these, ONLY Lambert was drafted. The other 3 were all undrafted free agents.

And, FYI, the team over the years that has been most enamored of drafting Kent State players?:

The Atlanta Falcons

Players they took: Willie Asbury 1966 (love that name, sounds like a pool shark), Eugene Baker 1999, Bob Hallen 1998, OJ Santiago 1997, Gerald Tinker 1979, Mike Zele 1979

The Falcons have drafted 6 Kent State players over the years. NO other team has drafted more than 2. The teams that have drafted 2:

The Browns: Rich Mostadi 1960, Larry Poole 1975

The Steelers: Lou Harris 1968, Jack Lambert 1974

The Saints: Usama Young 2007, Keno Hills 1996

No other team has ever drafted more than one Kent Stater in their history.

@the-gipper said:

Virginia Tech: 5 players: Jay Dunn, Lee Suggs, Andre Davis, Ben Taylor, Justin Hamilton

Miami, Fla.: 5 players: Leon Williams, Kellen Winslow Jr., Joaquin Gonzales, James Jackson, Andre King

Maryland: 4 players: D'Qwell Jackson, Melvin Fowler, Lewis Sanders, Kendell Ogle

Colorado: 4 players: Lawrence Vickers, Brad Bedell, Rashidi Barnes, Dana Chiaverini

Florida: 3 players: Joe Haden, Andra Davis, Gerard Warren

Cal: 3 players: Alex Mack, ???Echemandu, Marquis Smith

Georgia: 3 players: Mohammed Massaquoi, DeMario Minter, Sean Jones

Arizona: 3 players: Syndric Steptoe, Dennis Northcutt, Manuia Savea

Oklahoma: 3 players: Travis Wilson, Brodney Pool, Antonio Perkins

Boston College: 3 players: Antonio Garay, William Green, Paul Zukauskus

Stanford: 3 players: Babatunde Owshinowo, Amon Gordon, Kirk Chambers

South Florida: 2 players: Carlton Mitchell, Anthony Henry

Hawaii: David Veikune, Melia Purcell

Southern Cal: 2 players: Kaiuka Maiava, Daylon McCutcheon

Clemson: 2 playersJames Davis, Rahim Abdullah

Wisconsin: 2 players Paul Hubbard, Joe Thomas

Notre Dame: 2 players: Brady Quinn, Jeff Faine

UNLV: 2 players: Beau Bell, Eric Wright

Ohio State: 2 players Brian Robiskie, Darnell Sanders

Michigan: 2 players Braylon Edwards, Aaron Shea

Virginia: 2 players: Andrew Hoffman, Wali Rainer

Kansas State: 2 players: Quincy Morgan, Lamar Chapman

Schools with only 1 player each:

Kentucky: Tim Couch

Jackson St.: Eric Chaste

SW Texas St: Spergon Wynn

Texas Tech: Anthony Malbrough

Tulane: JaJuan Dawson

Miami, Ohio: Travice Prentice

Penn St.: Courtney Brown

Texas A&M: Michael Jameson

Washington: Jeremiah Pharms

Northwestern: Kevin Bentley

Minnesota: Michael Lehan

Rice: Ryan Pontbriand

Marshall: Chris Crocker

West Texas A&M: Chaun Thompson

Louisiana Tech: Luke McCown

New Mexico: Nick Speegle

Kansas: David McMillan

Akron: Charlie Frye

Indiana: Isaac Sowells

Troy: Marquis Spriggs

Syracuse: Kevin Johnson

Florida St.: Kameron Wimbley

LSU: Chase Pittman

Memphis: Brandon McDonald

St. Augustine: Alex Hall

Iowa St.: Ahtyba Rubin

Missouri: Martin Rucker

San Jose St.: Coye Francies

Norfolk St.: Don Carey

South Carolina: Justin Geathers

Nebraska: Larry Asante

Arizona St.: Shaun Lauvao

Texas: Colt McCoy

Tennessee: Montario Hardesty

Oregon: TJ Ward

Tarleton St.: James Dearth

Arkansas: Madre Hill

Kent State: Josh Cribbs.....undrafted

The highlighted guys are players that have been named to a Pro Bowl. So? Based on this, which school has been the best "feeder" school for the Browns. Personally, I am not sure any school has been that great.

We cant blame the school if the players we draft are not often than great. Seems like we seem to have an eye for passing talent