@atenears said:

Oh ... and how about putting your foot up the next players ass who goes for the strip and allows a huge gain?

Bigger boots, with spurs, should be strapped on and used for missed tackles at the end of the game when a win is on the line.

One stat that matters is 3rd down defensive success and the Browns are #9 in the NFL. Not too shabby.

@atenears said:

Oh ... and how about putting your foot up the next players ass who goes for the strip and allows a huge gain?

+20!

I would "thank" this 20 times if I could...

@atenears said:

man i can't tell you how much watching a player do that pisses me off. i forget what coach started teaching that 'tactic' but he should have been fired on the spot. sure it's great when it works but to see these 'would be tacklers' running next to a player who's flying down the field and just pawing at the ball instead of wrapping the guy up is disturbing to say the least.

Oh ... and how about putting your foot up the next players ass who goes for the strip and allows a huge gain?

Now, if only #80 could go down with an injury, we might accidentally find a player who could play (see QB position).

In jon we trust!

@gips said:

All the injuries and lack of quality depth isnt helping either..

the op must have forgotten that not only did the browns d get ints and fumbles, but they also scored on d. i guess that's not good enough for him, though.

All the injuries and lack of quality depth isnt helping either..

@rawdawg said:

So I think we agree with one another, the OP made a stupid thread.

@tshirtfan said:

EDIT: I get it now. Yeah, my sentence could have been read two different ways. I meant for the OP to pin this one on the defense, much fail. If you read it another way, it could have sounded like I said "I'm pinning this one on the defense."

Thats how I took it

@rawdawg said:

Hes saying pinning it on the defense was the failure

@rawdawg said:

Huh? To pin this loss on the defense is just plain stupid..

EDIT: I get it now. Yeah, my sentence could have been read two different ways. I meant for the OP to pin this one on the defense, much fail. If you read it another way, it could have sounded like I said "I'm pinning this one on the defense."

@tshirtfan said:

You're just a plain out moron. 6 takeaways is far from fail by anyones standards except yours. I'm surprised you can even spell fail after a post that stupid.

@roach said:

i'm a Mangini fan. But if they retain this blowhard, then the gloves come off. i want a DC that: (1) Doesn't rely on funny lines to maintain his popularity, and (2) Doesn't rely on turnovers to give the ball back to his offense.

i wish we could fire him now, but that would be the wrong move to make. Waiting for Cincy (or unfortunately for some other team) after the season would be the right move.

Ass.

@roach said:

i'm a Mangini fan. But if they retain this blowhard, then the gloves come off. i want a DC that: (1) Doesn't rely on funny lines to maintain his popularity, and (2) Doesn't rely on turnovers to give the ball back to his offense.

i wish we could fire him now, but that would be the wrong move to make. Waiting for Cincy (or unfortunately for some other team) after the season would be the right move.

You must be out of your mind. This could be the best d that we've had in years. We need a little help in the secondary and for the most part until today, our run defense has been good. We need an o coordinator that plays to win and not to lose. Holmgren will fix that problem during the off-season. Six turnovers and 400 yards is due to the fact that our offense never moved the ball in the second half. The defense did great and any defense that is left on the field that long will break down.