@calfoxwc said:

Let the players and coaches deliver the justice. htownbrown

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baloney. It should be okay to let criminals shoot cops in the back, and not a crime with a big penalty, and just let the cops "handle it" ???

We've been to NASCAR races - you don't want to see a driver intentionally ram another driver head on. WTH??? It's about structured competition,

not some Roadrunner cartoon where Wiley Coyote gets to break all the rules outlandishly.

Life isn't a movie or a hockey game, where you can see all sorts of fake stuff, or see those hockey fights. Even in that, there are penalties in hockey.

Your rationalization doesn't work at all. Sorry.

No, no, no and no. So did you read the part where I said and I quote, "I understand the arguement of intent"????? I think it has ALWAYS been illegal to go on a brutal tirade. That was NEVER my point at all!!! Spearing and the like have ALWAYS been considered unnecesary roughness. And when something occurs that the other players don't like you better believe whoever becomes a target. ALWAYS has been and ALWAYS will be.

You are arguing intent and I UNDERSTAND that already!

Let the players and coaches deliver the justice. htownbrown

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baloney. It should be okay to let criminals shoot cops in the back, and not a crime with a big penalty, and just let the cops "handle it" ???

We've been to NASCAR races - you don't want to see a driver intentionally ram another driver head on. WTH??? It's about structured competition,

not some Roadrunner cartoon where Wiley Coyote gets to break all the rules outlandishly.

Life isn't a movie or a hockey game, where you can see all sorts of fake stuff, or see those hockey fights. Even in that, there are penalties in hockey.

Your rationalization doesn't work at all. Sorry.

@htownbrown said:

Let the players and coaches deliver the justice.

society's acceptance of NFL's brutality is completely separate from their perception of fisticuffs on an NFL field, which seems weird to me but it is what it is. if that's not the image they want to portray then i can understand what you were getting at, it just seems contradictory to me given the mass X velocity element. there is a social stigma to fighting, not so much to the NFL's inherent violence. i believe it comes down to packaging, kinda like how our grocery meat department looks nothing like the slaughterhouse, although they are really one in the same in reality. remove the blood, put some foam around it>>>whala! it's now socially acceptable. sorry, i'm ranting here. not everything makes sense when you break it down and politics rule the day, so i'll just accept that sheep are the majority and i'm without a doubt a truth massochist. and just to add, i'm 5'9" and 155 lbs, but i cover up really well. drunks and/or assholes should never mess with wrestlers with nice hands.

@htownbrown said:

Since im 5'5 and weigh 145lbs I come across those type of guys alot. Espically in bars. If they're drunk I try to ignore them but sometimes you cant and that's when it gets interesting.

@sisky-fringo said:

imo you may want to rethink your argument.

There is nothing to rethink......they get paid (by me and you I might add) to take a risk everytime they are on the field. Do I like helmet to helmet hits......yes and no. Everyone that watches nascar wants to see a crash every now and then and this really is no different. Do I want people to get hurt? No. Alaskan fishermen, cops, boxers, gay lion trainers, rig workers, etc know that there is a chance they might not make it home everytime they go to work. But for them the money is worth the risk and they're not even paid a fraction of a football salary. If you are afraid to get hit in the helmet then you probably shouldn't be playing football. The equipment is lightyears better than it has ever been. As a matter of fact, they could go helmet to helmet on every play and not have half the risk to deal with as the professions I listed above. I understand the argument of intent, but not everytime it happens intentionally. I think the league and its fans are getting soft. Of all people I would think you would understand since you like to fight. Unless you are that guy who likes to pick on the smallest guy in the room because there is too much risk of injury to fight the biggest guy. Then YOUR arguement would make sense to me.

Let the players and coaches deliver the justice.

@pumpkin-eater said:

in order to take credit for kicking someone's ass you basically need to stop them, either by them crying uncle aka "no mas" or beating them until they can't move or are in so much pain they just give up and lay there...like breaking their arm or breaking their ribs with steel toes.

i love to fight, in fact i was in a fight last night. successful blows were landed by both of us and i'm sure he also has marks today, but neither of us can claim he kicked the other's ass cuz we both coulda kept coming. punches are par for the course, if the other wasn't totally stopped or unless it's a completely one-sided ruthless beatdown no ass whipping took place. my $.02

p.s. i don't start em, but i'll certainly accept them. there's gotta be penalties in life for assholes.

@htownbrown said:

I seriously have no idea what Goodell is really doing. He is one of the most unpredictable figures in sports which is not a good quality for the man in charge of your favorite sport to have. This guy is a walking contradiction. I mean think about it, has anything happened this year that 'damaged their image' worse than that incident. Yeah big gay was some drama, but I mean on the field. Just be consistent is all I'm saying!

200+ lb men spearing helmet to helmet blows at full speed leaves players taking dirt naps and often puts them out of games entirely. look at CF's reaction to the pathetic back-of-head blows--it didn't even faze him.

imo you may want to rethink your argument.

@shepwrite said:

getting punched in the back of the head twice isn't exactly my idea of getting an ass whipping. in fact, that shit doesn't even hurt.

Johnson completely lost his head=Finnegan for the win. total mindphuck.

@miktoxic said:

Haha fair enough

@slowburn said:

actually after reading some his posts on this board, i would.........but like the price of a can of bud and make it in a pissy alleyway.

@wrrebel said:

So yes, there are guys who play all sports for money and not for love of the game, un like billy chapel.

no one would pay to see you get tatooed by tee hee Tyson

@htownbrown said:

I seriously have no idea what Goodell is really doing. He is one of the most unpredictable figures in sports which is not a good quality for the man in charge of your favorite sport to have. This guy is a walking contradiction. I mean think about it, has anything happened this year that 'damaged their image' worse than that incident. Yeah big gay was some drama, but I mean on the field. Just be consistent is all I'm saying!

The NFL did look pretty bad after all of this.

Many believe the only reason neither was suspended was because the Texans play on NFL Network tonight.

Especially with the Cavs game tonight, the league owned network would have gotten even worse ratings if Johnson was suspended.

Regardless of how good a guy Johnson is he still deserved at least one game.

So yes, there are guys who play all sports for money and not for love of the game, un like billy chapel.

@wrrebel said:

Something called gambling would keep people intersted. I like to go to the track and watch dog races or horse races yet I have never raced my own dog.. weird huh?

Well I race motocross because I like to do it. If I didn't like it then I wouldnt race. If I didnt race you couldnt bet on me to win or lose.

Your talking about an animal doing a sport for your enjoyment, lets say you were the dog and you didnt want to race, would you still race to please the people gambling? Just like if I didnt like to fight I wouldnt want to be a boxer now would I?

If nobody wanted to fight then how would you place a bet on someone who isnt fighting?

@speedyd900rr said:

To me, that's the equivalent of a 5th grade pushing fight. Soon as he got up everyone was there to stop it so no, I dont even think a real fight accured.

Some people just like to fight and you can call it little man syndrome, or just being a dick if you want but some people just love the adrenaline rush you get when the fists start flying. If nobody liked to fight then boxing wouldn't be a sport.

Exactly. I saw helmets get pulled off and some jumping and pushing and one punch/slap to the head. Not exactly an ass kicking by any means.

Homotron said:

No one cares what you think Homo. Go away to the Squealer boards, or wear your Steeler Jersey bandwagon ahole.

Something called gambling would keep people intersted. I like to go to the track and watch dog races or horse races yet I have never raced my own dog.. weird huh?

To me, that's the equivalent of a 5th grade pushing fight. Soon as he got up everyone was there to stop it so no, I dont even think a real fight accured.

Some people just like to fight and you can call it little man syndrome, or just being a dick if you want but some people just love the adrenaline rush you get when the fists start flying. If nobody liked to fight then boxing wouldn't be a sport.

@htownbrown said:

I couldn't of said that any better myself lol.

Homotron said:

Well you are like the Finnegan of this board, so.........

@diehardbrownsfan said:

Andre Johnson is one of the classiest players in the NFL, ALWAYS understated and goes out on the field and produces. EVERYONE after the game said that Finnigan must have really been pushing buttons to get that reaction. The last thing Andre Johnson is, is Dirty and it's ridiculous to suggest otherwise. He flies under the "drama league radar" for a reason. He does what he's asked to do and does it well. The consummate pro. Finnegan has deserved a beat down for a good long while. It's about time I say.

@shepwrite said:

Like I said... it's nasty enough out there. Everybody's supporting his family. It's not cool.

hey, it's worked for shittsburgh all these years..................

@miktoxic said:

I get it... and I really don't mind the guys who play head games (Bird did, most WRs do)... but there has to be a line. The sport is plenty violent enough without unnecessary shit. Ward doesn't take enough heat for being a tool and leveling totally unnecessary blindside blocks away from the play. There's no purpose served.

Like I said... it's nasty enough out there. Everybody's supporting his family. It's not cool.

@shepwrite said:

some people have to play that way. taunt and talk to make up for other short comings. there are plenty of assholes that talk shit on the field........the list would be too long to mention. most want to get under other's skins to mess up their game ala reggie miller vs. knicks. remember shannon sharp vs. bills. hated the guy, but would've thought different if he was on the browns.