@brownsbacker said:

Ask around Dickweed... I am NO Troll. I respect the Browns and Your Teams History. I am Fair... if not a tad loud at times. You are as stated a Joke. They would EAT you alive on a Steeler Forum... Because you are a Dumb***. And Since YOU haven't heard the story. My Friends at Work (Browns Fans) Asked me to join here years ago...said I would enjoy the Football banter... And I do a lotta good guys here (a tad More are indeed...Dickweeds like you...but its fun) I average less than 4 posts a day so not here long just in and out about 4 days a week. I dont "Live: here. I go to Steeler Boards as well... Did YOU know you can surf the web on MORE than ONE site at a time ?? Really you can !! You are just a bitter little Woman~like fan dude. Sad little pathetic wimp.

@bunsofsteel08 said:

You've been posting here for years so that makes you intelligent? I'm a new user to this board so what I say is "whatever"? Gotta love the logic of steeler trolls who live on the Browns board. You know how many posts I have on a steelers forum? 0. You are sad.

@brownsbacker said:

ok... coming from A Little baby poster like you whatever. I been here for years and People know I am far from a Moron. I am very fair with you guy... the vast majority of Browns fans know that. You... are a joke.

The Soldier said:

And how our defense should play.

He said that he wants to hurt them enough to put them out for the game and even next week. That is called an injury!

Colt12 said:

Cribbs defended Harrison's hit on him. I would think you would understand this but a "helmet-to-helmet" his doesn't automatically mean "spearing". Spearing is when you use the top most part of your helmet to hit. It's difficult for players to do this if they tried becasue you have no ability to see what your hitting and that along with the time it takes to lower your helmet to a complete 90 degree angle will make for a lot of missed tackles with the ability of offensive skill players in todays NFL. The guy in your sig has already had his fair share of helmet-to-helmet hits so I don't see why you are so bitter about Harrison's hits.

It's one thing to be against spearing and purposely trying to paralyze players. It's another thing to whine about big hits from rival players while having your sig show off a guy who does the same things but for your team. If any bit of helmet-to-helmet contact between players truly gets you this butthurt I suggest you stop watching football and see if ESPN2 is airing any tennis or soccer matches.

Cribbs wants the Browns defense to play like Harrsion, and so should all of us.

The Soldier said:

yeah well that's two more players hurt than should have been hurt. Once again, I will not feel ONE ounce of sorrow for James Harrison when he hurts his neck and/or spinal cord delivering these helmet-to-helmet hits. It will happen soon or later, and when the time comes, I will not be surprised, nor will I feel bad for him.

Colt12 said:

He gets fined weekly, but i don't think he is causing head injuries weekly. In fact, i think only Mass and Cribbs were the only one's hurt.

The Soldier said:

And how our defense should play.

yes well there is a problem when one player (James Harrison) is causing HEAD injuries to other players almost weekly.

Hillis-iz-Boss said:

No I am not dumb. I'm not the one rooting around on an opponents forum and I am sorry that I find it hard to pick up "text sarcasm" but it is not my strong suit. Also even though he may have been talking about ALL head to head hits, the only illegal ones are on QB's and defenseless wide receivers which was what I was talking about and which is the focus of this topic in general.

Well this is just wrong. Harrison said he wants to "hurt" people and not "injure". He made that a point. Which is what he should do. Which is why the hardest hitting defensive players are beneficial to their team.

And how our defense should play.

@the-gipper said:

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@spunkonmyback-dpoy said:

No play goes out to paralyze someone, but as Harrison has publicly stated his goal is to go out and injure key players when ever he can, at least so that they are out for the rest of the game. Plus when you add in the fact that he believes that he isn't doing anything wrong and that he's doing NOTHING to change the way he plays it isn't a wonder to see why he is being made an example of.

No I am not dumb. I'm not the one rooting around on an opponents forum and I am sorry that I find it hard to pick up "text sarcasm" but it is not my strong suit. Also even though he may have been talking about ALL head to head hits, the only illegal ones are on QB's and defenseless wide receivers which was what I was talking about and which is the focus of this topic in general.

Colt12 said:

I wasn't arguing anything. I just said I don't think players purposlely try paralyzing eachother, complained about Goodell's inconsitancies and defened and complimented TJ Ward.

@spunkonmyback-dpoy said:

The biggest problem I have with Goodell's fines are they are inconsistantly applied and the amounts follow no sort of model. Even if I disagree with his softening of the game just so he can justify an 18 game season, I could atleast respect his actions if he is fair and consistant about them. Another problem is Goodell tried make all these changes in hitting in the middle of a season with less than a week. That's bound to cause confusion.

I have no problem with TJ Ward's hit on Mendenhall. Same with his it on Shipley. Shipley ducked his head, that's not Ward's fault. Ward tried throwing a forearm and shoulder to his chest and make him drop the TD. That's kinda his job. If Shipley would have just bounced off Ward's hit and caught the TD there would have been no flag or fine. It only happend because he went down with an injury. But Ward has looked great so far this season, and could prove to be a great steal lasting until the 2nd round.

im too tired to argue about this.. all i have to say is why hit the head when u can hit the shoulders and came the same result, a tackle.

@spunkonmyback-dpoy said:

The biggest problem I have with Goodell's fines are they are inconsistantly applied and the amounts follow no sort of model. Even if I disagree with his softening of the game just so he can justify an 18 game season, I could atleast respect his actions if he is fair and consistant about them. Another problem is Goodell tried make all these changes in hitting in the middle of a season with less than a week. That's bound to cause confusion.

I have no problem with TJ Ward's hit on Mendenhall. Same with his it on Shipley. Shipley ducked his head, that's not Ward's fault. Ward tried throwing a forearm and shoulder to his chest and make him drop the TD. That's kinda his job. If Shipley would have just bounced off Ward's hit and caught the TD there would have been no flag or fine. It only happend because he went down with an injury. But Ward has looked great so far this season, and could prove to be a great steal lasting until the 2nd round.

im too tired to argue about this.. all i have to say is why hit the head when u can hit the shoulders and came the same result, a tackle.

Colt12 said:

I don't think any player purposely goes out and tries paralyzing people. It's one thing to carelessly make hits or going overboard in trying to make a big hit, but all these players are human, not satan spawns. They all have families and many players are friends with eachother even if they play for huge rivals. Players can do dumb things in the heat of the moment in a big game, but I don't think any of them try something as evil as trying to paralyze another player.

The biggest problem I have with Goodell's fines are they are inconsistantly applied and the amounts follow no sort of model. Even if I disagree with his softening of the game just so he can justify an 18 game season, I could atleast respect his actions if he is fair and consistant about them. Another problem is Goodell tried make all these changes in hitting in the middle of a season with less than a week. That's bound to cause confusion.

I have no problem with TJ Ward's hit on Mendenhall. Same with his it on Shipley. Shipley ducked his head, that's not Ward's fault. Ward tried throwing a forearm and shoulder to his chest and make him drop the TD. That's kinda his job. If Shipley would have just bounced off Ward's hit and caught the TD there would have been no flag or fine. It only happend because he went down with an injury. But Ward has looked great so far this season, and could prove to be a great steal lasting until the 2nd round.

@spunkonmyback-dpoy said:

Hitting with the intent to dish out pain is the goal of all defenders. I really hope you know that.

thats fine, thats fine (I just went into Derek Anderson mode lol). There is a fine line between hitting with the intent to dish out pain and hitting with the intent to paralyze. I don't care what team you like, if you can't agree with that fact, you are clearly in denial.

Colt12 said:

Defend Rodney Harrison Jr. all you want.......

Hitting with the intent to dish out pain is the goal of all defenders. I really hope you know that.

@choco said:

Gene pool is shallow over here guys....years of impregnating your sisters will do that to a population.

bam! the shit has hit the fan! Any Steelers fans here, you have absolutely no argument. The NFL's worst offender is on your team and he admitted that will continue to play dirty.

Hillis-iz-Boss said:

I pray to God you aren't really this dumb.

I will walk you through this, but I'm sure even that won't help you....First of all, he was talking about all helmet-to-helmet contact. Therefore if the player was defenseless or not or catching the ball or not is irrelavant..... Also, I never said anything of the like of "Harrison doesn't deserve to me fined period" so your wrong again....Third of all you completely missed my sarcastic point of pointing out he wanted players suspended on the spot for helmet-to-helmet hits while having TJ ward is his sig.

Gene pool is shallow over here guys....years of impregnating your sisters will do that to a population.

@spunkonmyback-dpoy said:

TJ Ward only did it because James Harrison did it not once, but twice in that game. He injured our two best receivers. And James Harrison does it on purpose, he has clearly stated he will continue to do it. That's an asshole for you, "I like hurting guys and I will continue to do so, despite getting fined 125k." that just about sums it up.

Colt12 said:

TJ Ward should still be suspended for the his helmet-to-helmet hit on Mendenhall back in week 5.