Homotron said:

ben isnt a top QB

his super bowls had nothing to do with him.....in fact....his first super bowl was the worst performance by any starting QB in a super bowl in NFL history.....congrats

the steelers won without big ben which proves he isnt all that......he manages games like a rookie and tries hard not to lose them. you saw what happened when they tried to win with him as the focal point last season.....you guys missed the playoffs

the only thing that stands out about ben is his ability to escape the rush which is only an issue because hes too dumb to make quick reads and get the ball out before his line chokes and lets guys through

Homotron said:

Mostly puns. Not necessarily trying to be funny. Try your own hand, see if you can do better.

The Unibrow though, for Flacco. Come on, even you have to admit that is funny.

mikeyP72 said:

Don't like it, leave... STOP POSTING HERE. It's really that simple. Being from Pittsburgh or at least admiring that town, I guess I can't totally blame you for being to dumb to figure this out.

lol. I gave my two cents. Opinions are like a$$holes, everybody has one. Just like everyone is entitled to one. Do you really think I give a sh.it about what anyone thinks on this message board? Sure some opinions and points are valid but when it all boils down I hit this board every once in a while for division news and to read the blind hate. Take Ben off the Steelers and he's way up most people lists and that's a fact. You have some of your own already rating him where he deserves to be ranked. The others are just playing the "I"m a browns fan and I hate the Steelers card" rather than taking the thread at face value and answering the question honestly. Oh and LMAO at Sanchez/Stafford/McCoy being used in the "I don't want to win one, I want to win 7" category. Good one Zombo. I nearly spit out my drink.

@the-gipper said:

Answers:

1. Lord Gaga aka Mr. Bundchen...Tom Brady

2. Aw Shucks, version 1.0... Payton Manning

3. Windy...Drew Brees

4. Vapo Rub...Mike Vick

5. Up a Creek...Philip Rivers

6. The Rhino...Matt Ryan

7. Hammerin'Singin' Cowboy...Aaron Rodgers

8. He's Coming...Eli Manning (he was going to be Aw Shuck version 2.0, but I changed it)

9. The Angry Sheep Dog... Ben Roethlisberger (a literal translation of his name)

10. Pancho...Mark Sanchez

11. The Hang Dog...Jay Cutler (because of his constant facial expression)

12. The NFL version of the Stepford Wives....Bradford

13. The Unibrow...Joe Flacco

14. The Investment Broker...Matt Charles Schaub

15. Formerly a Slave, now a ____________ Freeman

16. The Rook Cassell

17. Rhymes with Homo Tony Romo

18. Not _ramden, N_____ Kyle Orton

Answer key later

mikeyP72 said:

Yeah, I know nothing about football.

Mikey at 25 to make such a statement just proves you are just a kid

@pizzadeliveryguy said:

Cutler has showed the ability to be top 5 then he goes brain dead and just chucks to the opposite jersey.

Vick could arguably be #1 with the way he has looked in his brief return but I still remember his inacurracy as an Atlanta Falcon.

Schaub certainly has the numbers but hasn't been a proven winner and may just benefit from his offensive system and having the best WR in football to throw to.

I agree, but I do not and will not ever trust Cutler. Some days he will strap up and throw 4 TDs for 350 yards, but sometimes he will throw 150 yards and 3 INTs. Vick has been very successful in his return, but his decision-making is questionable. Did you see the ball he threw to Brent Celek against Chicago? Yes, Celek caught the ball, but he was in quadruple coverage and the ball should not have been thrown.

Colt12 said:

That is a good question. To me, those two along with Schaub are wild cards.

Cutler has showed the ability to be top 5 then he goes brain dead and just chucks to the opposite jersey.

Vick could arguably be #1 with the way he has looked in his brief return but I still remember his inaccuracy as an Atlanta Falcon.

Schaub certainly has the numbers but hasn't been a proven winner and may just benefit from his offensive system and having the best WR in football to throw to.

@bunsofsteel08 said:

P Manning

Brees

Rivers

Rothlisberger

Rodgers

Schaub

Ryan

Romo

Cutler

Vick

Flacco

E Manning

Cassell

Sanchez

Cutler on top of Vick?

mikeyP72 said:

Browns' fan all of my life. But I am also a fan of the NFL in general and really don't despise any team.

P Manning

Brees

Rivers

Rothlisberger

Rodgers

Schaub

Ryan

Romo

Cutler

Vick

Flacco

E Manning

Cassell

Sanchez

@texasfight said:

Let's say there was a QB draft and you're the GM of the Browns. On your big board, who would be your top 15 QB's?

Did you settle the bet? What was it?

Who's in your top 15?

mikeyP72 said:

Plus I don't like the guy.

Plus it pisses off Homo and Stone to no end which is really why I changed it to begin with. I agree with you on Sanchez, I don't have any idea why I put him on there.

That's my preference and that's the point of the post.

Who made you an expert of my opinion? Oh right, you're just some disgruntled xxxxhead with nothing better to do. Got it.

There is no mention of fantasy football in the OP, FWIW.

FTR, I enjoy discussing these type of rankings until people show up and take a huge dump in the thread with the sole purpose of ruffling feathers with no intent of adding anything of any value to the subject. It just gets old seeing the majority of threads here degnegrate into a pissing match between juvenile homers who do nothing but throw out hyperbole that they can't possibly believe.

@the-gipper said:

Yes, it would be absurd to rank McCoy over BR as a QB in this league. Maybe he simply means he likes McCoy's potential future over BRs. That might be arguable, but certainly not his current ranking

Fixed, thanks.

@pizzadeliveryguy said:

I think you meant "below" not over, right?

Yes, it would be absurd to rank McCoy over BR as a QB in this league. Maybe he simply means he likes McCoy's potential future over BRs. That might be arguable, but certainly not his current ranking.

mikeyP72 said:

Yeah, I know nothing about football.

And yet you are ranking a proven veteran with multiple superbowls below a rookie that isn't even guaranteed the starting gig on his team? Frankly, the Steeler honks can come off as absurd with some of their claims but you are making them look completely sane by comparison.

Zombo said:

Zombo

Really you don't want to draft a QB in his mid 30's that probably has 2 to 4 good years left?

Wow someone actually read the original post.

Homotron said:

This is the first year that they have had a top10 defense since Rivers has been with them but their special teams have been historically bad. He is 52-24 with 4 playoff appearances as a starter with some of the best stats that you will see and has been a model of consistency (That is including this year with guys like McMichael, Naanee, Floyd, Crayton, and Ajirotutu). In that same time frame BR is 42-26 with 2 playoff appearances. I'm not sure why you believe he isn't a leader or a winner. He has had 12 4thQ comebacks and 15 game winning drives so the winning close games argument doesn't hold water. Also, I really don't think you want to go into individual statistics. I can assure you, it isn't close. The only argument that Ben comes out on top is Superbowl wins but let's not forget what Ben's performances in those games were like. I think that you are letting your dislike for a QB cloud your judgment of his actual worth.

So it boils down to " I don't like Rivers and Ben plays on my favorite team, that is why I would take him".

Homotron said:

I don't think Rivers is so much a crybaby as he is a very arrogant dude. And yea, i'll agree he doesn't have the playoff wins, but there's two HUGE factors you overlooked here. One, yea the Chargers defense hasn't been terrible, but I would never even come close to saying they had a "championship caliber" defense like the steelers have had.

Secondly, coaching plays another enormous factor when it comes to the playoffs. I have my personal reservations about Tomlin, but big ben got to learn under arguably the best coach of our generation for the early part of his career. Looking at Rivers, he had Marty (I'm sure my fellow fans can tell you a WHOLE lot about him and coaching in the playoffs), and Norv Turner, who also always chokes come that time of year. I think the caliber of the coach in the playoffs is probably the most overlooked factor for teams that end up winning. If you put a gun to my head and made me rank the three, I'd put it like this

4. Rodgers

5. Big Ben

6. Rivers

@jrb12711 said:

Rivers is the biggest damn baby int he NFL. He routinely has oodles of talent around him and still finds a way to cry his way out of games and it's not like that defense is or has been putrid. It's been pretty solid over the years. Ben is easily the best QB out of that draft class and Steeler fan or not I don't understand the love affair with Rivers. Starting a franchise tomorrow you want a QB that is going to lead his team and win the close games. Rivers isn't that guy and really is a baby. I've never viewed him as a "leader" and as you, yourself mention Ben wins football games. He's a gamer and there isn't a QB in the league I'd rather have under center.

2.Manning

3.Brees

4.Rodgers

5.Rivers

6.Vick

7.Ryan

8.Schaub

9.Eli Manning

10.The Rapist

11.Bradford

12.Favre

13.Romo

14.Stafford (hes on one of the worst teams but i see him doing big things if he could stay healthy)

Im going based on if i had to build a team what QB would i take in this is pretty much the order

Also not sold on The Dirty Sanchez so glad we passed on him