@gips said:

Singletary i like but he may to fiery for shurm...

The thing about Singletary is he's a very proud man...played with fire and heart...That doesn't automatically make one a great coach,but I

could see him wanting to redeem himself

He's also a very religious man...something that fits well with Holmgrens philosophy

@ithika said:

Another solid name is Dave Wanstedt if we transition to the 4-3..

Defense is key in the AFC North if we don't have a dominate one we will be nothing. The DC is going to be a very important hire IMHO...

Phillips took the DC job at Houston

Singletary i like but he may to fiery for shurm...

@brownb499 said:

So lets get serious about who's out there...no current DC is going to leave job security to come take a chance w/ Clevelands latest new regime

That means we're left with currently unemployed coordinators or newbies looking to make a name

Thoughts?....Names?...Here are mine

Kieth Butler - Steelers LB coach,pretty good group of backers he's got there,former Browns asst.

Bob Babich- Bears LB coach, again pretty good group he's coached up there

Mike Singletary- just a name

Dean Pees- Ravens LB coach, former Pats DC,coached Cribbs at Kent

Id love to take a flyer on Singletary or a name that hasn't been mentioned, Wade Phillips. Wade hasn't been much of a HC over his career, but the guy has always been an amazing DC and best yet is he runs a 3-4. Its doubtful we'll run the 3-4 but i hope we stick with it..

Another solid name is Dave Wanstedt if we transition to the 4-3..

Defense is key in the AFC North if we don't have a dominate one we will be nothing. The DC is going to be a very important hire IMHO...

So lets get serious about who's out there...no current DC is going to leave job security to come take a chance w/ Clevelands latest new regime

That means we're left with currently unemployed coordinators or newbies looking to make a name

Thoughts?....Names?...Here are mine

Kieth Butler - Steelers LB coach,pretty good group of backers he's got there,former Browns asst.

Bob Babich- Bears LB coach, again pretty good group he's coached up there

Mike Singletary- just a name

Dean Pees- Ravens LB coach, former Pats DC,coached Cribbs at Kent

@joeybagofdonuts said:

"Jauron joined the Eagles' staff three months after he was fired as Buffalo's head coach. He was with the Bills from 2006 to '09, and was the head coach in Chicago from 1999 to 2003.

Eagles coach Andy Reid brought in Jauron - who also had the title of senior assistant - last year to bring some veteran leadership to a young defensive coaching staff headed by 36-year-old Sean McDermott.

Despite the addition, the defense regressed in nearly every statistical category. The defense allowed 31 passing touchdowns and was last in the league in red-zone efficiency. Reid said McDermott would be back next season."

OH-Boy regression not good!!!

Mcdermott just got canned Jauron is going to be promoted to DC in Philly so we wont be getting him as a DC now. And I want no part of this Mcdermot fellow. Hopefully we can get Wanstedt.

Eagles send Sean McDermott packing

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/...ermott-packing/

Two years ago, Eagles defensive backs coach Sean McDermott was promoted to the position of defensive coordinator, due to the serious health issues of Jim Johnson, who later would succumb to cancer.

Less than a week after the Eagles’ season ended in the playoffs, McDermott has been fired, according to ESPN’s Chris Mortensen.

Hints of trouble for McDermott came when coach Andy Reid became more involved in the defense. In late October, ESPN’s Sal Paolantonio said that McDermott could soon be out.

“There is no question about that,” Paolantonio said. “I don’t know how much input Dick Jauron has in the defensive game plan, I’m sure he has quite a bit, but eventually they may have to make a switch there.”

Some criticized Paolantonio for suggesting that Reid would fire McDermott. (We suggest that Paolantonio not hold his breath in anticipation of any apologies.)

The move comes at a time when Eagles assistant Dick Jauron is drawing interest in Cleveland. Reid possibly realizes that the time has come to bump Jauron up. To do so, Reid first had to bump McDermott out.

"Jauron joined the Eagles' staff three months after he was fired as Buffalo's head coach. He was with the Bills from 2006 to '09, and was the head coach in Chicago from 1999 to 2003.

Eagles coach Andy Reid brought in Jauron - who also had the title of senior assistant - last year to bring some veteran leadership to a young defensive coaching staff headed by 36-year-old Sean McDermott.

Despite the addition, the defense regressed in nearly every statistical category. The defense allowed 31 passing touchdowns and was last in the league in red-zone efficiency. Reid said McDermott would be back next season."

OH-Boy regression not good!!!

can get another terrific draft, and make hay this coming season. Beats me who the right ones are, obviously...

@hoorta said:

Really like how Rubin is developing, but philbert really f'd us with that draft screw-up.

Copper said:

Um, they did that this year already...

I hope the Browns stay with the 3-4 - it's more versatile...

I believe the Browns defense is headed in the right direction. but all this talk about 4-3 or 3-4 reminds me of this commercial:

@calfoxwc said:

and PLAY either one, off and on, depending on situations and personel matchups?

that would be ideal, but extremely hard to accomplish... especially when we have needs on the offensive side of the ball too.

and PLAY either one, off and on, depending on situations and personel matchups?

@ravensfan1996 said:

Just to remind you the Browns could have taken Ngata instead of Kameron Wimbley. Could be why the Ravens have a great defense, and the Browns stink. OTOH, we may have found a keeper NT in Rubin- we shall see.

@gips said:

Ryan lined our guys up 4-3 quite a bit and they all have various 4-3 experience so i dont really have a problem with switching, both defenses have their ups and downs and we currently lack the necessary personnel to run either efficiently or even through the course of a season due to age injuries..

TICK TOCK. TICK TOCK.

@kosar_for_president said:

not when Rubin is your only DT with talent... then we are down 3 lineman and still have 0 pass rushers...

@hoorta said:

Wiki Link

Not a bad idea at all- bring in a real experienced coordinator (who's had HC experience) to mentor the rookie HC. There's some guys who are great coordinators who were lousy head coaches. Dick LeBeau anyone?

Don't forget:

1. Mike Nolan (MIA)

2. Romeo Crennel (KC)

3. Jim Hasslet (WAS)

4. Rod Marinelli (Bears)

5. Gunther Cunningham (DET)

6. Dom Capers (GB)

Some have had better success than others. Three of these coaches fielded playoff teams this year. Romeo has five Super Bowl rings from his defensive coaching efforts. Valid argument regarding coaches finding their niche. Could Mangini be joining this list in the future? JTIOT

@choco said:

Back to the 4-3....awesome. we get to run the antiquated defense that's predictable and has been going the way of the dodo. I like the arguments for the switch tho.....its obvious that's that we have all the right personnel to run it.....its not like the best defenses in the league are 3-4 (6 of 10), with 5 of which made the playoffs. Jaurons defenses were awesome in Buffalo...lemme tell ya

True, but the Haloti Ngata's and the Kelly Gregg's of the world are hard to find.

Back to the 4-3....awesome. we get to run the antiquated defense that's predictable and has been going the way of the dodo. I like the arguments for the switch tho.....its obvious that's that we have all the right personnel to run it.....its not like the best defenses in the league are 3-4 (6 of 10), with 5 of which made the playoffs. Jaurons defenses were awesome in Buffalo...lemme tell ya