Win and bring home a trophy or two, no problems. Be one of the best and no problems. Quinn was made fun of too. Leaf? LOL!

"If you're white and you don't admit it's awesome you're an asshole. And I'm a man, how many advantages can one person have? I'm a white man, you can't even hurt my feelings. What could you really call a white man that really digs deep? 'Hey, cracker.' 'Uh, ruined my day. Shouldn't have called me a cracker, brings me back to owning land and people.'"

-Louis C.K.

@longhorn said:

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@gafreleets said:

Oh yes, the ever persecuted white male.

You are absolutely talking out of your ass.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41139649/ns/us...ime_and_courts/

U see racism every where..

Regarding black QBs part of the problem is that the coaches want them to use their athleticism, it makes their teams better. And it really wouldn't matter whether those guys were white or black, coaches in college want you to run if that is a great skill. It creates big plays and makes your offense and passing game harder to defend. So a guy who can run will not receive the same emphasis on learning the passing game that a guy without athletic talent would. If a great runner has been playing QB for a long time they know that when things get tough you take off and hope to make a big play. I remember that Mark Brunell said that he didn't really learn how to play QB until he had an injury that kept him from running.

@tshirtfan said:

no, mcnabb would have gotten respect if he'd been drafted anywhere but in philly. worst fanbase in sports.

@mudratdetector said:

in america, in the modern day?

name one that is more discriminated against.

maybe, and only maybe in recent times i would say latinos are making a push with all the "illegal immigration" crap being thrown around.

and that's ANOTHER thing i can't stand.........the term "illegal immigrant". you want to talk about "illegal immigration"? how bout the genocidal treatment of the native americans that inhabited this country before it was ever discovered by uropeans.

but i'm getting off topic. if you can think of one.........pm me it. i'd love to debate why you think the white male isn't the most discriminated ethnic/sex combo there is.

Vick is really lucky he's got the media behind him, if you ask me. Sort of an anomaly. There's a presumption made by a lot of people about any black QB that they're great runners and athletes but terrible passers, or they don't "get" the game, etc.

Obviously many people are beyond all this, but it's there. QB is a "white" position and RB/WR are "black" positions. I applaud anyone who successfully breaks the stereotype, and Hillis is a great example. Donovan McNabb hasn't been a perfect QB, but he's been very, very good and probably would have been given more respect by some people had he been white.

@wrrebel said:

dosen't leave much room no to with the title of the thread and the story being about racism and race playing a part in what roles a player can play in the modern nfl.

@gafreleets said:

"the white male is the most discriminated against combo of race/sex there is."

why do i say that? well........................

it's okay to say anything about white people..........why? i don't know, but black comedians don't feel like they're doing their job unless 1/2 of their bit is racist comments and stereotyping of white people (males especially)

there are hundreds of programs for women.......single moms, beaten women, women's shelters, etc......ad nauseum. what about the "single parent, white male shelters"?

there are hospitals dedicated to only women's health.

there are colleges that actively advertise that they're a "black" college. could you imagine if a college described itself as a "white college"?

there are "recognition" months for just about every ethnicity and also a month dedicated to women.

they even get into college more easily than white males. most colleges go off of a point system that you earn points for varios things (GPA, class rank, exracurricular activities, leadership in school clubs, ethnicity, sex)..........well, a couple yrs ago boston college had a story done about how a student needs a score of 600pts to be accepted, and just for being black, indian, oriental, or hispanic you got 400pts right off the bat!!!!!!! and if you were a woman, you got an aditional 50pts!!!!

and don't even get me started on affirmative action.

rants like this demonstrate a fundamental understanding of the history of the United States, the role of the white male, and the experiences of people who are neither white nor male in said society. i usually don't dignify this sort of shit with a thoughtful response. if you really believe that the white male is the most discriminated against sector of the population, you are delusional beyond comprehension.

You can use many examples of it going both ways.. For instance when lacy peterson was murdered it was a huge story, cause why she is white..

Of all the children who get kidnapped watch cnn and see how many kids are white, casey anthony, ect..

does anyone really get offended when they get called a whiteboy?

"the white male is the most discriminated against combo of race/sex there is."

why do i say that? well........................

it's okay to say anything about white people..........why? i don't know, but black comedians don't feel like they're doing their job unless 1/2 of their bit is racist comments and stereotyping of white people (males especially)

there are hundreds of programs for women.......single moms, beaten women, women's shelters, etc......ad nauseum. what about the "single parent, white male shelters"?

there are hospitals dedicated to only women's health.

there are colleges that actively advertise that they're a "black" college. could you imagine if a college described itself as a "white college"?

there are "recognition" months for just about every ethnicity and also a month dedicated to women.

minorities even get into college more easily than white males. most colleges go off of a point system that you earn points for varios things (GPA, class rank, exracurricular activities, leadership in school clubs, ethnicity, sex)..........well, a couple yrs ago boston college had a story done about how a student needs a score of 600pts to be accepted, and just for being black, indian, oriental, or hispanic you got 400pts right off the bat!!!!!!! and if you were a woman, you got an aditional 50pts!!!!

and don't even get me started on affirmative action.

In that, they made it a political grenade launcher, and a living for themselves.

@gips said:

Im sure at the end of the day they have respect for his ability to dish it out and take it...

So its perfectly ok for white players to tell Vick and Mcnabb, "Come on black boy, you can't throw!" then, too, right? What's good for the goose...

Im sure at the end of the day they have respect for his ability to dish it out and take it...

@speedyd900rr said:

What channels are you watching, exactly?

@wrrebel said:

Probably not.

Just thousands of years of history to back up the comment.

@cddbrowns said:

Either way, you are spot on with how you feel, and again, I am teaching my children the same. Racism is still alive because people wont LET it die, and mostly from the people YELLING racism every day. People no longer live in fear of racism, they hide behind their color and say thats why bad things happen to them. I get so sick of it.

Anywho, before anyone goes off, everyone is created equal, whether you believe in creation or not, it is what it is.

As the famous king once said " can't we all just get along"

@speedyd900rr said:

Gotta love America. It's the only place on earth where blacks can be racist towards whites and whites are forced to accept it.

I wonder what would happen if I wrote an article and refered to a group of black football players as a batch of brownies? Would I be labeled a racist even though they call us crackers and such? I mean if it's ok for them to pick a derogatory word that describes the white race then why isnt it ok for whites to do the same?

Does anyone know where the term cracker came from? At first I thought it was because of the color but they have dark crackers to so that doesn't work. Ive also heard that in the old days the slaves would call the man who stood in the field holding a whip "the cracker" becuase of the cracking sound it made when he used it but I dont know if thats true either. If it is then they are only degrading themselves everytime they say it so that doesn't make sense.

Although this is a VERY touchy subject, I have half black children. Ex was black, obviously, and I try to teach them from what Martin Luther said, not what the world presents now. Dont judge by color, but from character.

Either way, you are spot on with how you feel, and again, I am teaching my children the same. Racism is still alive because people wont LET it die, and mostly from the people YELLING racism every day. People no longer live in fear of racism, they hide behind their color and say thats why bad things happen to them. I get so sick of it.

Anywho, before anyone goes off, everyone is created equal, whether you believe in creation or not, it is what it is.

Gotta love America. It's the only place on earth where blacks can be racist towards whites and whites are forced to accept it.

I wonder what would happen if I wrote an article and refered to a group of black football players as a batch of brownies? Would I be labeled a racist even though they call us crackers and such? I mean if it's ok for them to pick a derogatory word that describes the white race then why isnt it ok for whites to do the same?

Does anyone know where the term cracker came from? At first I thought it was because of the color but they have dark crackers to so that doesn't work. Ive also heard that in the old days the slaves would call the man who stood in the field holding a whip "the cracker" becuase of the cracking sound it made when he used it but I dont know if thats true either. If it is then they are only degrading themselves everytime they say it so that doesn't make sense.