But I do like his fire and competetiveness which is something we haven't had in a while. Crennel was so layed back it wasn't funny... come on I never seen the guy get emotional tword the players and you need that to command respect in the locker room.

I also like how he plugs in running backs and they are an instant threat and 1000yd rushers. If he just willing to coach I would love to see him in Clev. But I never think a coach/ Gm is ever a good idea, there is just way to much responsibility and it takes away from what they really need to cocentrate on, coaching.

Steeler SChuck said:

You're not getting Shanahan, Cowher, Parcells - no top NFL coach with a winning pedigree would touch the stains with a 10 foot barge pole.

You might get someone like Mangina, but honestly - if yinz could snag Marty which is at least within the solar system of possibilities, yinz would be hitting the lottery.

Assuming Marty doesn't work out, it will be someone yinz never expected or heard of.

Your GM should get hired first, but hey - nobody every accused me of expecting the stains organization to do something the right way.

Regards

.... an'at

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.... fagg'ot

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@yeahdaisafuturehofer... said:

and overall where did our offense rank in 2008?

He turned Big Money Gerard Warren and Courtney Brown into respectable players in 05!

You're not getting Shanahan, Cowher, Parcells - no top NFL coach with a winning pedigree would touch the stains with a 10 foot barge pole.

You might get someone like Mangina, but honestly - if yinz could snag Marty which is at least within the solar system of possibilities, yinz would be hitting the lottery.

Assuming Marty doesn't work out, it will be someone yinz never expected or heard of.

Your GM should get hired first, but hey - nobody every accused me of expecting the stains organization to do something the right way.

Regards

.... an'at

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Masters said:

Shanahan is a great coach, who shold keep to coaching. He'd be great to help a GM, as you said, to find a few diamonds. I think he works best when his main focus is coaching.

You are 100% right. Great coach but you can't be coach and GM, there is just too much. Maybe Butch Davis would have been a very good coach if he would have had a real GM. Instead some of these guys let their egos run wild. Savage and Davis are two examples. Cowher wants say so, but he does work with a GM and player personnel Director.

@osusev said:

god I hope not! I want fresh blood, a new coach with a slightly different scheme that will shake things up. Give the Browns a name. Kinda like Lee in Miami with his WildDawg offense (funny how the first team with serious success gets the credit, but the Browns had those WildDawg plays in ever since they had Cribbs, just no credit for it--hate how the announcers constantly talk about how the Browns are copy catting the Dolphins.)

Aloysius said:

That guy was a bit of a puppet for Shanahan. He reported to Shanahan, as he was VP of Football operations. Just like it was him who abandoned his draft board to draft Mo Clarett.

Shanahan is a great coach, who shold keep to coaching. He'd be great to help a GM, as you said, to find a few diamonds. I think he works best when his main focus is coaching.

Masters said:

Ted Sundquist was their GM until last year, when he took the bullet for their bad drafts.

Shanahan's '08 draft was actually pretty good: franchise LT in Ryan Clady, #2 WR in Eddie Royal, promising RB/FB/h-back in Peyton Hillis. But no help on defense, except for UDFA OLB-SS Wesley Woodyard.

He definitely shouldn't have full personnel control in his next job, but I bet he'll help his GM find some great offensive players in the draft.

@shepwrite said:

They did fire their GM. Shanahan was both. That was the problem.

@atenears said:

8-8 ... 2008

7-9

9-7

13-3

10-6

10-6

9-7

8-8

11-5

6-10 (first year without Elway)

14-2

12-4

13-3

8-8 ... 1995

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146-91 overall record

7-playoff appearances

2-Super Bowl wins

Randy should be waving piles of cash under Shanahan's nose as we speak. The guy gets the most out of his talent and is a proven winner.

Our 4-12 team had more talent this season than his 8-8 team. We had Denver beat in that Thursday night game until Shanny adjusted and Homely-O had no answer.

He's my pick for HC with a bullet. Get him here......NOW!

Doug

One complaint that I heard about him was that he drafted like Butch Davis. He laid out a draft board with the scouts and when it came time to draft he went off the board and took a flyer on a guy. I remember Clarrett and people almost shit.

Reports from ESPN and the Denver Post is that he is willing to take the $20 million and sit back and see what comes up next year.

@destinfunk said:

Just when I thought the Jets lost their minds for firing a Head Coach that wins - I couldn't believe Denver fired Shanahan. WTF? He's SOOOOO GOOD Kubiak hired Shanahan's son as his OC.

- Tom F.

We need to get this guy in here NOW.

@destinfunk said:

We probably need a new center anyway. And our left side is perfectly suited for a ZBS scheme.

But you're right about his defense: not necessarily a 4-3 issue, but he needs a very strong DC.

anyways...i would blow it all up if he was the guy building..he is WAYYYYY more apealing then Cowher...Fresh Blood...

Shan / Cowher

8-8 ... 8-8

7-9 ... 11-5

9-7 ... 15-1

13-3 ... 6-10

10-6 ... 10-5-1

10-6 ... 13-3

9-7 ... 9-7

8-8 ... 6-10

11-5 ... 7-9

6-10 ... 11-5

14-2 ... 10-6

12-4 ... 11-5

13-3 ... 12-4

8-8 ... 9-7

--- ... 11-5

Shanahan had Elway ... Cowher had steroids and ref pay-offs.