@cambridgeho said:

The pick we got from Sac. is from a Sac + Houtson trade last year. Thats why it is worth it, the Rockets will make the playoffs before Sac. does. Also dont call me bud the name is Dan.

Bud, Brother...all terms I use when I'm trying to be friendly. Sorry if it offended you, that was never my intent. That being said, didn't know your name. Too new to the boards I reckon.

That being said, where are you getting this information from? I haven't seen it anywhere. Everything I have seen (and I've searched hard) has only mentioned Sac-town. Nothing involving Houston at all.

@xfl2001fan said:

Not Houston...Sacramento Kings bud. Unless something new has transpired that I have missed.

Jamison is expiring...and he should be a hot commodity...but I don't know that we'll get another 1st out of him...especially a 2012 1st. Still, I'd be content with future 1st rounder (that would give us another trade exception...one we'll hopefully use.)

The pick we got from Sac. is from a Sac + Houtson trade last year. Thats why it is worth it, the Rockets will make the playoffs before Sac. does. Also dont call me bud the name is Dan.

@cambridgeho said:

You do know it is Houstons pick right, they havea pretty damn good chance of making the Playoffs. Also you have to remember hat Jamisons contract is going to be a hot comodity come Feb. We will get 3 1st rounders next year. We will probably get rid of a couple future first round picks to get in the top 5 or 10 after our own pick, but hopefully they get this lockout thing figured out before the season starts, and hopefully we kick ass next year with what we have.

Not Houston...Sacramento Kings bud. Unless something new has transpired that I have missed.

Jamison is expiring...and he should be a hot commodity...but I don't know that we'll get another 1st out of him...especially a 2012 1st. Still, I'd be content with future 1st rounder (that would give us another trade exception...one we'll hopefully use.)

@xfl2001fan said:

There's no guarantee that we have a 1st rounder in the 2012 draft...that only happens IF it's a pick that's not in the Top 15. If it's in the Top 15 then we have to wait (at least) another year.

You do know it is Houstons pick right, they havea pretty damn good chance of making the Playoffs. Also you have to remember hat Jamisons contract is going to be a hot comodity come Feb. We will get 3 1st rounders next year. We will probably get rid of a couple future first round picks to get in the top 5 or 10 after our own pick, but hopefully they get this lockout thing figured out before the season starts, and hopefully we kick ass next year with what we have.

@cambridgeho said:

We had a pretty good draft, now that we know JJ wont be there and that Tristan will be the starting PF. We got a pretty good scorer in Cassipi and another 1st rounder in the super loaded 2012 draft. I think it has been a win on an off season.

There's no guarantee that we have a 1st rounder in the 2012 draft...that only happens IF it's a pick that's not in the Top 15. If it's in the Top 15 then we have to wait (at least) another year.

mikeyP72 said:

I think Dirk showed he is a better player. Where is Dwight's ring? Dirk is a team player, an elite scorer, he can D up most bigs and has the passion for the game. Dwight is the premier center in the game because of the physical tools he has and his defense. I'd take Dirk though any day of the week for my franchise.

Take Dwight and Dirk off of their respective teams and let them play each other. Mavs win by at least 10 points. The Mavericks are a far deeper team than the Magic that is chock full of overpriced has beens who's names are far bigger than their games. Dirk's defense is improved...but hardly lockdown. If Dirk is the guy manning the low post, NBA players don't fear going inside.

This isn't Tennis where Champions are crowned based off of individual talent. This is basketball...it's a team sport. It requires a team. Want proof...look at the Cavs 60+ win seasons. It was Lebron and a couple of solid (but not great) role players (Varejao and Mo Williams being the two best)...and a bunch of players who were over the hill (Big Z, Jamison, Parker) or still learning the game (Hickson).

Dwight is the better player (though Dirk is the significantly better shooter).

@clevelandmilidh said:

Cleveland isn't Dallas, we just had a hometown superstar leave. Your not going to be able to bring them type of guys in thru free agency. Not to mention Dirk is the best big in the game, the only way your getting that is drafting him. Those guys aren't walking around in the streets.

Dirk is the best shooting big. Dwight is a far better player.

@lcdawgfan13 said:

Agreed...I think this team will struggle to 20-30 wins...IF everyone stays healthy. If something happens to any of our starters...this team may struggle to get to the 15 win range. But...That is saying that nothing else happens before the season begins. There's a lot of time (and negotiating) left before then!

WTF? We had nearly 20 wins when everyone WASNT healthy. We spent most of last season without Mo Williams or Anderson Varejao and still eked out 26 wins.

We have improved at our 3 guard since last year...and Varejao is likely to be healthier coming into this next season. Even 50 games with Davis as our starting PG is still better than 30 games of Mo.

Yes, we are still not a playoff team...but last year we were down 60% of the previous years starting rotation...that's a BIG fall.

@lcdawgfan13 said:

Agreed...I think this team will struggle to 20-30 wins...IF everyone stays healthy. If something happens to any of our starters...this team may struggle to get to the 15 win range. But...That is saying that nothing else happens before the season begins. There's a lot of time (and negotiating) left before then!

That could very well be the plan, were not going to the playoffs in 1 year. We can make some transactions to compete and end up with a mid round pick and be mediocre every year or we can play for the future, get some great talent in the draft and compete for championships over the long haul. The best interest of the team is to win 20-30 games next year, nobody wants to hear that but its reality.

mikeyP72 said:

ok lets say Eyenga graces the starting lineup....

starting line-up of Davis, Eyenga, Jamison, Hickson, Varejao with Irving, Sessions, Boobie, Gee, Thompson, Samuels and Hollins coming off the bench.

20-30 win team this year if no improvements are made through trades or F/A.. Still lacking shooters/scorers at SG/SF and a good rotation at center.

Agreed...I think this team will struggle to 20-30 wins...IF everyone stays healthy. If something happens to any of our starters...this team may struggle to get to the 15 win range. But...That is saying that nothing else happens before the season begins. There's a lot of time (and negotiating) left before then!

@clevelandmilidh said:

Christian Eyenga would've been the best SG in this draft, he's on our team. Why reach for a guy when you already have your starter for the future. Guy has mad explosion and can shoot the rock, Eyenga and Irving's gonna be dominate

Yes...I do think Eyenga has the physical ability to turn into a damn good player...I just hope he puts it all together real soon. He shuld be the starting SG this season. He can put up some points. But he can't carry a team...he's not that kind of player.

mikeyP72 said:

So Tristan Thompson was BPA at 4 and the guy who will never play for the Cavs at 53 was BPA? Trading the #32 overall pick to Orlando for 2 FUTURE (likely late 2nd rounders) was a BPA move?

Obviously the Cavs thought so. I don't necessarily agree with them but the strategy is sound.

@nickers said:

crapola Draft...the Cavs managed to get worse...lol

Well, if you want to believe the experts, this years talent sucked so bad the Cavs should have just traded all of this year's picks for future picks.

@chris. said:

Well, at least his arms are long...

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