@hoorta said:

What? you guys don't get it yet? This is a BROWNS message board, and if some of the guys want to bash anything & everything related to the Steelers and Pittsburgh, (justified or not) they have the full approval of the administrators and moderators of this forum.

PS- we don't give a Rat what you guys think.

Right, unlike the government or other businesses, we are permitted to discriminate on the basis of color, i.e. against black and yellow.

@gafreleets said:

no, it's mindless because it shows a total lack of working logical thought process on your part. it's mindless drivel that you guys spew because it's you most hated (and secretly admired) rival. anyone that has done even the slightest bit of objective research into the Ben case knows that both those charges were bogus. hell, i think the lawyer that filed charges for the first lady is about to be de-bar'd for allowing a fraudulent lawsuit go as far as it did and with his personal knowledge that it was false.

no, i feel (as do most of the Steeler "trolls" on this board) that you post most of this stuff because you're a bitter fanbase that has nothing better to do than try and tear down other teams who are your betters. i think your whole "dogpound" wishes secretly every nite that they had a franchise that was even a quarter as competent as the Steelers organization is. and i think it's eats you guys up to see every year your team rebuilding while again drafting in the top 10 picks while we keep plowing on as an elite team and annually a competitor for the superbowl.

but hey, that's just my opinion.

What? you guys don't get it yet? This is a BROWNS message board, and if some of the guys want to bash anything & everything related to the Steelers and Pittsburgh, (justified or not) they have the full approval of the administrators and moderators of this forum.

PS- we don't give a Rat what you guys think.

@miktoxic said:

when is the draft? zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

They eliminated the Draft in 1975. To date, that is still the only lottery that I have won. I had a 292. Anyone around my age will always remember their draft lottery number.

....err, or, you meant the NFL draft?

Oh....Nevermind. (and it was about 1975 that Emily Laticia uttered those immortal words)

@the-gipper said:

Not sure what this argument about geography is all about. New Castle PA sits squarely inside the 75 mile radius of the Steelers stadium that the NFL decrees is a team's natural home base. Note however, that it actually only sits a couple of miles or so outside of the 75 mile radius for Cleveland. It does not sit in the overlap of the team's market area as do Youngstown, Sharon PA, and Columbiana.

Note this also: Meadville PA sits outside the 75 mile radius of both cities, but is actually Slightly closer to Cleveland than it is to Pittsburgh. And Erie PA is outside the 75 mile radius of both cities, and is actually closer to Cleveland than to Pittsburgh....However, it actually lies closer to Buffalo than either Cleveland or Pitts.

And FYI, as the crow flies, Cleveland Browns stadium is actually closer to Ford Field in Detroit than it is to Heinz Field. There is greater overlap of the Detroit/Cleveland markets than there is the Cleveland/Pittsburgh markets. However, most of that overlap territory between Detroit and Cleveland sits over Lake Erie. The only decent sized cities that sit in the overlap between Cleveland and Detroit are Sandusky and Port Clinton.

Since I grew up in Youngstown and played golf in Castle Hills in New Castle more than once and have been a fan of both the Steelers and Browns since the fifties .............I still find this thread hilarious. First for a great poster Gipper, for your information which you found time to piss on me about drating, I usually do not come out big time and say things like "this will be a dark moment in Browns History" I only said it once to be exact, and that is when Butch Dufus Davis went brain dead and passed on Ben and gave up a second to select the greatest ever do nothing Kellen Winslow. Now onto to next point, a franchise QB, which Ben is, is the key to winning championships, so piss on that all you want keep drafting and signing fat nose tackles and ordinary OL guys, winning does NOT start in the trenches it starts with skill players who touch the ball, Third, New Castle is not far from Cleveland and maybe no closer to Cleveland than Pittsburgh. Fourth, why are we even having a whiner thread whining about a WINNER (ben) and just keeping on pissing in the wind. We blew it when we did not draft this Ohio guy, get over it and hope Coy can step up.

what was the greatest of all franchises in football and the greatest of fans has deteriorated into whining assholes...........the Cleveland Browns sad to say...........NOW snap out a be tall and win

we need to be better than that

Note this also: Meadville PA sits outside the 75 mile radius of both cities, but is actually Slightly closer to Cleveland than it is to Pittsburgh. And Erie PA is outside the 75 mile radius of both cities, and is actually closer to Cleveland than to Pittsburgh....However, it actually lies closer to Buffalo than either Cleveland or Pitts.

And FYI, as the crow flies, Cleveland Browns stadium is actually closer to Ford Field in Detroit than it is to Heinz Field. There is greater overlap of the Detroit/Cleveland markets than there is the Cleveland/Pittsburgh markets. However, most of that overlap territory between Detroit and Cleveland sits over Lake Erie. The only decent sized cities that sit in the overlap between Cleveland and Detroit are Sandusky and Port Clinton.

@nickers said:

Its only mindless to you because you and your Ilk will go the extra mile to defend the prick...no surprise...and yes New Castle is 35M away...My stepmother was born there.

no, it's mindless because it shows a total lack of working logical thought process on your part. it's mindless drivel that you guys spew because it's you most hated (and secretly admired) rival. anyone that has done even the slightest bit of objective research into the Ben case knows that both those charges were bogus. hell, i think the lawyer that filed charges for the first lady is about to be de-bar'd for allowing a fraudulent lawsuit go as far as it did and with his personal knowledge that it was false.

now on the subject of new castle and it's distance from pittsburgh? this is pulled directly from yahoo maps starting at Heinz Field (down town Pittsburgh) and going to the New Castle exit.....................Trip distance: 60.26 mi Time: 1 hr 7 mins.................so you're either wrong, or a liar. either one is no way to go through life buddy.

@choco said:

lol....u ever think that we post this type of stuff cause u stooler trolls feel the need to be on this board more than we are?

.

no, i feel (as do most of the Steeler "trolls" on this board) that you post most of this stuff because you're a bitter fanbase that has nothing better to do than try and tear down other teams who are your betters. i think your whole "dogpound" wishes secretly every nite that they had a franchise that was even a quarter as competent as the Steelers organization is. and i think it's eats you guys up to see every year your team rebuilding while again drafting in the top 10 picks while we keep plowing on as an elite team and annually a competitor for the superbowl.

but hey, that's just my opinion.

Homotron said:

I also think it's unfair to say he's using it to revamp his image. You don't get married and try and keep things hush/hush to revamp your image. They've also been off and on for a long time now. I'd say he went a long way to revamp his image since his return to the field and your first argument has been my own for a while, not to mention how ridiculously aggressive women are now sexually. Water over the dam.

Dude: He is the QB of the Pittsburgh Steelers. There ain't nothing he can do about revamping his image of that mar on his reputation short of retiring or getting traded.

Anything else he does to demonstrate deviancy is secondary to that particular character flaw.

He could go to the Kansas City Chiefs and become the Marquis de Sade and no one here could care, but being the QB of the Steelers alone is enough to drag him into the dirt.

Capiche?

@rich4eagle said:

Which part of the total bullshit on this thread has to do with football or being sore losers.............

Grow up folks.......Ben is a big time player we could of had him instead we traded up for Kellen Winslow under the dumbfuque regime

Now get on with football and hope McCoy can carry Ben's jock strap or better so we do not get our ass throttled for six more years

Sad .........Sad .....Sad a dumb fuquing thread with dumb fuqing responses

I made a statement in 2004 when we passed on Ben and gave a away a second to get brain dead Winslow that it was a dark day in Browns history........the sorta whining here is not going to fix stupidity but requests more

We fans could have second guessed every draft pick the Browns have made for the last 40 years. Don't know why you think passing on BR is any more special of a pass than the hundreds of other passes we made.

Hell, this is a team that passed on Tom Brady to take Spergeon Wynn.

Homotron said:

She doesn't live in Pittsburgh or Pittsburgh proper and New Castle is further than 35 minutes away. It still doesn't negate the sh.it show in this cute thread or why anyone cares about the article outside of Pittsburgh to begin with....oooooo right haters gonna hate. Unfortunately for some of you it's the same usual suspects starting the mindless threads. The place has been void of anything Steeler for what almost 2 months? Some things never change.

And yes Newcastle is Steeler country, most of PA is outside of Philly, but I doubt her address says Pittsburgh like mine for example. Twas my point.

If you don't think it isn't news, national or otherwise, about BR getting engaged a little over a year after he was accused of rape, and in the offseason after he served a 4 game suspension for his deviant behavior, then you are foolish. I suspect this sort of thing would be TMZ fodder for a month. Why would you think it would NOT be mentioned on a rival team's chat board? I agree that the news is of no consequence to me, but to believe that it shouldn't be mentioned or discuss is way too pollyannaish.

mikeyP72 said:

SJ, how many guys do you know that don't "prey on drunk girls" to get laid? Don't act like nobody on earth besides the Steelers QB does that.

i don't know any guys that prey on drunk girls to get laid. i don't hang around weirdo losers. real men don't need to or want to do sick crap like that. sounds like somebody on an episode of criminal minds.

i'm quite aware that ben isn't the only sicko like that in the world. but that doesn't lighten the fact (that ben is a serial sexual predator) just because other guys do it to. so your point that i put in bold letters is extremely pointless. and people wouldn't post steeler crap like this if their star qb wasn't known for illegal contact off the field.

btw, there was a recent thread on this board about lawrence taylor and his recent drama with a female. no, it wasn't the same situation as ben's. but my point is that it was a non browns topic brought up on this browns board and i don't remember anybody complaining about that being on here (http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=19237). i'm just saying.

mikeyP72 said:

Stepped back from message boards from awhile, this shit is ridiculous.

SJ, how many guys do you know that don't "prey on drunk girls" to get laid? Don't act like nobody on earth besides the Steelers QB does that.

Anyway, Ben is clearly using this to revamp his image. But like Homotron and someone else said, who really gives a f!ck?

I also think it's unfair to say he's using it to revamp his image. You don't get married and try and keep things hush/hush to revamp your image. They've also been off and on for a long time now. I'd say he went a long way to revamp his image since his return to the field and your first argument has been my own for a while, not to mention how ridiculously aggressive women are now sexually. Water over the dam.

@choco said:

lol....u ever think that we post this type of stuff cause u stooler trolls feel the need to be on this board more than we are?

thats right u didn't. cause u aint got the equipment that allows coherent thought.

i live in wexford dumbfuk...the only non ghetto community in allegheny county. i golf in newcastle.....dont tell me how far it is.

Who the xxxx are you again? You live in Wexford the only "non-ghetto" community in Allegheny County? HILARIOUS and let's not talk about coherent thoughts because there isn't a thing that I've ever typed on this message board that hasn't met that "criteria" I also think your first sentence is nothing more than a cute deflection from one obvious fact. A few of you morons just can't help yourselves. The same morons singing "the demise of the Steelers' for what seems like the better part of a decade. Let me ask you. How has that worked out?

And going back to your other point you must not get out much. Wexford is alright and during my days in High School I enjoyed beating the sh.it out of Mt. Lebo but your comment is so ridiculously ignorant it's almost not worth a response. I responded anyway and if you don't like Allegheny County do us all a favor and get the xxxx out.

"only non-ghetto community in Allegheny County" LMFAO and lol @ you golf in New Castle. I golf at Oakmont Country club. You should come by. I'll piss on your shoes.

Grow up folks.......Ben is a big time player we could of had him instead we traded up for Kellen Winslow under the dumbfuque regime

Now get on with football and hope McCoy can carry Ben's jock strap or better so we do not get our ass throttled for six more years

Sad .........Sad .....Sad a dumb fuquing thread with dumb fuqing responses

I made a statement in 2004 when we passed on Ben and gave a away a second to get brain dead Winslow that it was a dark day in Browns history........the sorta whining here is not going to fix stupidity but requests more

thats right u didn't. cause u aint got the equipment that allows coherent thought.

i live in wexford dumbfuk...the only non ghetto community in allegheny county. i golf in newcastle.....dont tell me how far it is.

@nickers said:

Its only mindless to you because you and your Ilk will go the extra mile to defend the prick...no surprise...and yes New Castle is 35M away...My stepmother was born there.

It's mindles because this is a Browns board. One that usually takes a specific dislike to outside Steeler participation and has been void of most things Steeler for at least 2 months. I also don't understand why anyone is interested in this story at all. Plenty of pro athletes get married but because Ben apparently decided to stand beside the beliefs of his eventual wife he's chastised for it. I don't really care one way or another and this thread could go 40 pages for all I care. I just find it amusing, especially after all the crying about Steeler fans on your beloved message board. I've been reading the last two months and actually ignored this one for a while. Posted in a few other threads and finally broke down and participated. Some of you just can't resist and New Castle doesn't carry a Pittsburgh Address so no she's not from "pitspuke" man what a cute little nickname.

@nickers said:

Its only mindless to you because you and your Ilk will go the extra mile to defend the prick...no surprise...and yes New Castle is 35M away...My stepmother was born there.

Coincidentally my stepmother is buried in west Middlesex. A few miles from there.

WSS

Homotron said:

She doesn't live in Pittsburgh or Pittsburgh proper and New Castle is further than 35 minutes away. It still doesn't negate the sh.it show in this cute thread or why anyone cares about the article outside of Pittsburgh to begin with....oooooo right haters gonna hate. Unfortunately for some of you it's the same usual suspects starting the mindless threads. The place has been void of anything Steeler for what almost 2 months? Some things never change.

And yes Newcastle is Steeler country, most of PA is outside of Philly, but I doubt her address says Pittsburgh like mine for example. Twas my point.

Its only mindless to you because you and your Ilk will go the extra mile to defend the prick...no surprise...and yes New Castle is 35M away...My stepmother was born there.

@choco said:

newcastle is what...35 minutes away? i guess thats not steeler country...eh?

She doesn't live in Pittsburgh or Pittsburgh proper and New Castle is further than 35 minutes away. It still doesn't negate the sh.it show in this cute thread or why anyone cares about the article outside of Pittsburgh to begin with....oooooo right haters gonna hate. Unfortunately for some of you it's the same usual suspects starting the mindless threads. The place has been void of anything Steeler for what almost 2 months? Some things never change.

And yes Newcastle is Steeler country, most of PA is outside of Philly, but I doubt her address says Pittsburgh like mine for example. Twas my point.

@brownsfan4evr said:

Just shows you how stupid Pigpuke girls can be!

She's not from Pittsburgh. PA, but not Pittsburgh and I'm trying to figure out why anyone here gives a sh.it? It's been a while since one of these "wonder threads" has been started. Just couldn't resist I guess, too much BROWNS talk. lol.