@kosar_for_president said:

Lambdo, do you live in Canada?

Will you enlighten Cal on socialized Health Care if so.

Hi Kosar, Yes i do...but you can't enlighten a black hole so not sure I can be of assistance to Cal....(jk Cal I do support some of your views). Personally I'm a fan of it and don't mind paying tax on a service that has direct effect on human life.

Post Office mandated back to work now, but without contract. Lots of unionized gov't service industries on strike here within a provincial level as well (teachers, nurses and dietitians) The pensions are too cumbersome and are coming back to hurt alot of these jobs i fear.

Beer is just fine here Bunker, if you don't like a cool refreshing 5% go slam some of that bud light water you boys hoard down there...

@lambdo said:

Cal: Have a time believing that, Or at least it isn't an accurate assessment in my middle class Canada. Even Mayo clinic visits to the States are insured by Cdn HealthCare.

Kosar: Point taken...you Gents do have a poor system for waste when it comes to making changes.

Lambdo, do you live in Canada?

Will you enlighten Cal on socialized Health Care if so.

Also, government employees are severely overpaid even at the county level (here in FL anyway). I remember an old boss who was looking for a new engineer was having trouble competing with the COUNTY on the basis of SALARY.

Kosar: Point taken...you Gents do have a poor system for waste when it comes to making changes.

Leave it to Cal and the others to debate something that has nothing to do with the real issues (Palin, Obama's birth cert, Weiner, Gingrich's tab at Tiffany's). We are going to be bankrupt by 2025 and Cal is talking health care?

The point was a country is prospering despite having national heath care. Imagine what the US could do WITHOUT that expense.

anything serious, and you can easily die before you can see a specialist:

http://articles.cnn.com/2009-07-06/politics/canadian.health.care.system_1_government-run-health-health-care-system-mayo-clinic?_s=PM:POLITICS

Socialized health care here is fine, though it's not jump to the pump service it's more then adequate. If they charged 50 bucks a every hospital appointment it would weed out the heavy users who use the free care as a hotel room. But every time that gets brought up, left wing media runs crazy with it that we're not abiding by the rules.

Housing regulations more stringent here, it's to the point where home ownership is a pipe dream for some. I think minimum down is 10% and 30 year max mortgage. Interest on mortgages is not income tax deductible.

If the focus was on economic growth, they should be looking at reducing income tax, and abolishing the tax exempt goods. That directly puts $$ in the hands of the consumers to spend, if thats the objective?

@pumpkin-eater said:

Yeah, the left vs right bullshit is just a distraction. It's sad that the political hacks can't see that.

Liberals and RINO's both, which are career politicians and need to hit the unemployment line.

Maybe its time everyone takes a closer look at the tea party candidates. Or you can believe the Liberal media and just write them off as fringe politicians. Think for yourself.

@pumpkin-eater said:

Yeah, the left vs right bullshit is just a distraction. It's sad that the political hacks can't see that.

Insert Cal, T's and Heck's name here. They are so similar it's scary.

More proof the moniker's given to our "politicians" conservative and liberal is a bunch of marketing bullshit. They are all raping us.