I like looking at that and try to figure out who might make it and who might not.

First I break it down by positions and try to get a feel for how many players we will keep at each position.

My thinking is

QB 3

RB 4

FB 1

WR 4

TE 3

OL 8

23 total on O

DL 8

LB 6

CB 5

S 4

23 total on D

P 1

LS 1

K 1

3 total on ST skill positions

A total of 49 players, leaving 4 openings for the best of the rest.

I could have just combined corners and safeties as simply DB's....but 9 seems about right. They carry a big load on coverage teams, along with backers.

Just looking at my numbers, OL could probably use a 9th player and the backers could probably use one of the extras as well.

It's going to be interesting to see how it pans out.

@baconhound said:

Sorry there toxic avenger, I'm Browns fan all the way. Unlike fans of your mentality I don't drink the Kool-Aid. I will wear my Cribbs jersey week 3 at the game but I'm not blind and realize that with Robo and Cribbs we have zero downfield threats. Wake up!

I think Cribbs showed that he could be a downfield threat with that TD catch on Saturday.

(What did someone say about eating crow?)

@baconhound said:

Sorry there toxic avenger, I'm Browns fan all the way. Unlike fans of your mentality I don't drink the Kool-Aid. I will wear my Cribbs jersey week 3 at the game but I'm not blind and realize that with Robo and Cribbs we have zero downfield threats. Wake up!

i don't think we have any down field threats. momass is as close as we get and who knows what's up with that injury. the biggest threat we'll have this year receiving is yards after the catch. wco is perfect for this. i can't remember ever rooting against a player for the browns. oh, wait......there was this brady quiff guy that qb'd at notre dame. whatever happened to him?

@miktoxic said:

with a username like BACON_HOUND does that mean you like to sniff out pork products? pork as in sausages? you probably like 'smoking' the hog too, huh? little freaking quiff. go back to texting your boyfriend hines ward steeler boy troll!! :lol:

Sorry there toxic avenger, I'm Browns fan all the way. Unlike fans of your mentality I don't drink the Kool-Aid. I will wear my Cribbs jersey week 3 at the game but I'm not blind and realize that with Robo and Cribbs we have zero downfield threats. Wake up!

@baconhound said:

Brian Robiskie and Josh Cribbs, what a joke....

with a username like BACON_HOUND does that mean you like to sniff out pork products? pork as in sausages? you probably like 'smoking' the hog too, huh? little freaking quiff. go back to texting your boyfriend hines ward steeler boy troll!! :lol:

@the-gipper said:

It is no different than saying that Strato-Matic baseball

Gip you are really showing your age. Damn good game though.

I had Mike Hargrove on my team, batted .400 EVERY year.

@cantonlegend said:

i know you dont understand but madden has helped bring football to the younger generations. it actually does teach you a lot about the game although it cant teach everything. even coaches have used it with their QBs to help show different scenarios and how plays should look.

you may hate it because the older generations always look down on the younger ones but madden is one of the best selling franchises of all time and it definitely deserves some respect in that area

I understand it perfectly. And I know that of all the video games out there, it is probably one of the best, but it is still a F*****g video game.

Face it, it is a substitute for actually learning about the game the way it should be learned about, and it still doesn't have a cabbage farts worth of relevence to the actual game.

It is no different than saying that Strato-Matic baseball can team you a lot about real baseball. Sure, it can, but that was still a board game, just like Madden is still a video game. It is not a substitute for the real game. To declare that "Madden doesn't rate so and so team or player very high" is still irrelevent to the real game..

All they do is update the rosters and repackage the same game over and over and sell it to chumps who keep buying it year after year. Madden 04 looks just like Madden 08.

Why should they put more time and money into making the game better if they have no competition?

Once another company is allowed to use the NFL name Madden will flop and be a thing of the past.

Plus kids dont learn anything about football by playing Madden. All they know is x runs and o throws the ball. Most kids use the same play over and over as long as they keep scoring. Not to mention they all go in and change the players ratings so they're all 99.

@cantonlegend said:

you may hate it because the older generations always look down on the younger ones

no that's not why. it's because most of these kids that play these games do nothing else but sit in a room and veg out on that shit. the only thing worse than that is dressing up in wizard garb and rolling some dice so you can become a cave-dwelling ogre in some role playing game.

go outside and pick up a real football or baseball. christ on a crutch! young whipper-snappers!!

@diehardbrownsfan said:

Go play some dungeons and dragons Saints boy.

good one

@cantonlegend said:

i know you dont understand but madden has helped bring football to the younger generations. it actually does teach you a lot about the game although it cant teach everything. even coaches have used it with their QBs to help show different scenarios and how plays should look.

you may hate it because the older generations always look down on the younger ones but madden is one of the best selling franchises of all time and it definitely deserves some respect in that area

Go play some dungeons and dragons Saints boy.

@the-gipper said:

Who gives a crap?

i know you dont understand but madden has helped bring football to the younger generations. it actually does teach you a lot about the game although it cant teach everything. even coaches have used it with their QBs to help show different scenarios and how plays should look.

you may hate it because the older generations always look down on the younger ones but madden is one of the best selling franchises of all time and it definitely deserves some respect in that area

We are going to be super thin and have a huge unknown factor in many positions...hehehehe

@represent said:

If this roster was inserted into madden this year the browns are a 76 overall

Also would be the lowest rated team ever EVER to make the madden cover, in theory the makers of madden will over compensate for us being on the cover and rate us a respectable 88 which is utter bullshit.

Who gives a crap?

Also would be the lowest rated team ever EVER to make the madden cover, in theory the makers of madden will over compensate for us being on the cover and rate us a respectable 88 which is utter bullshit.

Ah thank you.

@chrisp_chicken said:

Everything I've heard has said Littles been getting first team snaps across from robo. By week 4 robo will be our #3 and cribbs #4 with momass and little grabbing the starter rolls, if momass is healthy that is

Where's Little? He's a rookie coming off a year of not playing. If MoMass' bone heals I see MoMass, Little, Robo, Mitchel after a few weeks.

I like the O Line and satisfied with the secondary. I think D'Qell is written in pencil (lightly).

@mr.-t said:

Does this make Robo our #1?

Maybe they see something that we dont. IMO: Robo at best would probably be a #2 or #3 on any playoff team.

Where is Little?

Everything I've heard has said Littles been getting first team snaps across from robo. By week 4 robo will be our #3 and cribbs #4 with momass and little grabbing the starter rolls, if momass is healthy that is

Does this make Robo our #1?

Maybe they see something that we dont. IMO: Robo at best would probably be a #2 or #3 on any playoff team.

Where is Little?

@crozone said:

OFFENSE

WR: Brian Robiskie; Carlton Mitchell; Demetrius Williams; Chris Matthews; Rod Windsor (Is this a position where the first shall be last and the last shall be first? Could be)

LT: Joe Thomas; Branndon Braxton; Calton Ford

LG: Eric Steinbach; Pat Murray; Jason Pinkston (I am kind of wondering if Pinkston will show up to be the first backup)

Alex Mack; Billy Yates; Steve Vallos

RG: Shawn Lauvao; John Greco; Jarrod Shaw

RT: Tony Pashos; Phil Trautwein; Dominic Alford

TE: Benjamin Watson; Evan Moore; Alex Smith; Jordan Cameron; Evan Frosch

WR: Joshua Cribbs; Greg Little; Jordan Norwood; Johnathan Haggerty; L.J. Castile; Juan Nunez

QB: Colt McCoy; Seneca Wallace; Jarrett Brown; Troy Weatherhead

FB: Owen Marecic; Tyler Clutts (As good as the kid looks, I can't help that putting Marecic in there is going to be a step down from Vickers veteran blocking presence. Eventually OM will catch on...but probably not in his rookie year)

RB: Peyton Hillis; Montario Hardesty; Brandon Jackson; Quinn Porter; Armond Smith

DEFENSE

LE: Jayme Mitchell; Derreck Robinson; Brian Sanford; Jabari Fletcher

DT: Phil Taylor; Scott Paxson; Ko Quaye; Andre Carroll

DT: Ahtyba Rubin; Brian Schaefering; Travis Ivey; Kyle Anderson

RE: Jabaal Sheard; Marcus Benard; Auston English (Every time I see this guys name I picture him saying: "Do I make you horny, baby")

SLB: Scott Fujita; Brian Smith; Benjamin Jacobs; Sidney Tarver

MLB: D’Qwell Jackson; Titus Brown; Steve Octavien (Will Jackson last 2 games before going on the DL? Probably should set up a pool on how many quarters he will last before going on the DL. The over/under is 7)

WLB: Chris Gocong; Kaluka Maiava; Eric Gordon; Archie Donald

LCB: Joe Haden; Buster Skrine; Ramzee Robinson; Darian Hagan

RCB: Sheldon Brown; Dimitri Patterson; Coye Francies; (I didn't even realize Francies was still with the team. I thought he was traded or released) James Dockery

FS: Usama Young (dude definitely needs a nickname); Mike Adams; DeAngelo Smith

SS: T.J. Ward; Eric Hagg; Ray Ventrone; Carl Gettis

SPECIAL TEAMS

P: Richmond McGee (Is it me or does anyone else think we should have at least 1 more person competing at this position?)

K: Phil Dawson; Jeff Wolfert

H: Richmond McGee

PR: Joshua Cribbs; Jordan Norwood; Armond Smith; James Dockery

KR: Joshua Cribbs; Buster Skrine; Armond Smith; James Dockery

LS: Ryan Pontbriand; Tyler Clutts (lets hope he does not live up to his name)

Note: WR Mohamed Massaquoi is on the active/non-football injury list

Hillis-iz-Boss said:

Of quick not, nice to see that Brown and Maiava have secured backup spots so far in camp, I hadn't heard much about them and I thought they were getting betten out. Also nice to see that Hagg has been good enough to claim the backup spot to Ward and Skrine the backup spot to Haden.

Not to be a downer but Brown, Maiava, Skrine, and Hagg being good enough to secure backup spots? There are only undrafted free agents or people that a lot of us are very unfamiliar with behind them on the depth chart. I wouldnt get too excited about them "securing" a backup spot over undrafted free agents...

I see no surprises at all with the depth chart, but cool to finally see one posted by the Browns!