@king-ghoolie-lives said:

Here, look at it logically.............

Steelers and Ravens.......... 4 losses is reasonable to predict.

Bengals.... Our only rivalry, always tough........ 1 - 1 at best

So you can figure we will be 1 - 5 in our division.

Colts Cards and Jags................ 1 - 2 (Any Given Sunday, give us one upset win)

The Browns are 2 - 7 in these games.

Of the remaining games, lets say they are all winable, well that is also to say that they are all loseable since these contests are not ones of great disparity.

If we were a competent team, we cculd be expected to win half, which in this case, we can just say 4 wins out of the remaining 7.

IF we were competent we could go 6 - 10.

But that isn't oging to happen. The Browns are not good enough to beat most of the close matches they are in. You go ahead and decide, but the best the Browns will do in these winable games is either 2 - 5 or 3 - 4

The Browns will go 4 - 12 or 5 - 11, 6 - 10 IF we get all the lucky stuff.

I am going to go bullish on the Browns......... 5 - 11 ( The on any given Sunday win is no more probable than is a Bengal sweep)

5 - 11 and we can trade our pick DOWN so another team can build with the draft.

YOu forget Ghoolie, the Browns have 2 first round picks next year, their own and the Falcons. Sure, they could trade down...or they could trade up with that kind of ammunition.

I really like this years team... Our 1st stringers on both side of the ball are solid and should produce more wins than last year.. My biggest concern, however, is the injury bug... Without depth a few key injuries could derail a promising season...

I like what I see in McCoy and he should excell in the WCO.. Our tight ends should be highly effective and the passing game should allow Hillis to have a better year this year than last...

Our defense has shutdown potential if we can control the line of scrimmage... We finally have some speed, something that has been lacking in the past..

With that said, I expect at least 8 wins. We're one of the youngest teams in the league so the learning curve should escalate as the season progresses.. League wide our expectations are low so we should be flying under the radar for the 1st half of the season..

Maybe the Steelers and Ravens will be down to their 3rd string QB's by the time we play them---sort of poetic justice...

The biggest upside to this years team is our coaching staff.. We finally have experienced coaches not 1st year coaches with potential...

8 & 8 if we play our game, 11 & 5 if the ball bounces our way.... IMO the 1st game is a must win...

Peace

T.Dawg

A weak opponent at home....we have to win.

We can win 3-4 on the road so we better be better than .500 at home.

If you can't win at home, you have no hope.

Win 6 at home and 3 on the road, you are a game away.

Win 2 crappy games at home, well, add it up.

@wrrebel said:

It will be interesting to see how it plays out. I'm concerned with the online which I thought would be the strength.

If colt mccoy is a franchise qb and builds off his rookie season I can see 7 and 9. I worried about our defense.

The game opening week against cinci will give us a gauge. If we lose to them and look bad, its gonna be a long year

For once, I can totally agree with you. Beating the Bengals on opening day is a must if we expect to have a 1\2 decent year. I think the Browns offense will do fine. If you see ESPN throwing out a question as to who will have the better season, McCoy or Stafford, you know folks are starting to notice.

As Taylor and Sheard go, so goes the defense. We're horribly thin @ linebacker and a couple of injuries there could derail any chances of winning.

So I'm going to say 8-8 for the Browns and hope for better. That closing stretch is brutal.

@jake24 said:

lol this just made me laugh......beating the cards isnt an upset...we should and better beat the bungals twice...and with Manning getting another evaluation Week 2 is a likely win without Manning...

Agree. Also, we have actually played decent against Peyton Manning in the past (haven't gotten the "W" though).

@king-ghoolie-lives said:

Here, look at it logically.............

Steelers and Ravens.......... 4 losses is reasonable to predict.

Bengals.... Our only rivalry, always tough........ 1 - 1 at best

So you can figure we will be 1 - 5 in our division.

Colts Cards and Jags................ 1 - 2 (Any Given Sunday, give us one upset win)

The Browns are 2 - 7 in these games.

Of the remaining games, lets say they are all winable, well that is also to say that they are all loseable since these contests are not ones of great disparity.

If we were a competent team, we cculd be expected to win half, which in this case, we can just say 4 wins out of the remaining 7.

IF we were competent we could go 6 - 10.

But that isn't oging to happen. The Browns are not good enough to beat most of the close matches they are in. You go ahead and decide, but the best the Browns will do in these winable games is either 2 - 5 or 3 - 4

The Browns will go 4 - 12 or 5 - 11, 6 - 10 IF we get all the lucky stuff.

I am going to go bullish on the Browns......... 5 - 11 ( The on any given Sunday win is no more probable than is a Bengal sweep)

5 - 11 and we can trade our pick DOWN so another team can build with the draft.

lol this just made me laugh......beating the cards isnt an upset...we should and better beat the bungals twice...and with Manning getting another evaluation Week 2 is a likely win without Manning...

Split on the road....sounds like 10-6, as long as our defense is acceptable.

I'm always optimistic this time of year, I hope I'm right!

I just hope they come out and roll the bungels...

I remember last year when everyone was excited about playing TB the first week and we had already counted the win... it was all a cluster F from there...

If colt mccoy is a franchise qb and builds off his rookie season I can see 7 and 9. I worried about our defense.

The game opening week against cinci will give us a gage. If we lose to them and look bad, its gonna be a long year