LBs run down field with robo at sprinting speed touching on his jersey and taunting him while hoping colt is dumb enough to send one robos way for gods sake!

Great route running means nothing when a defender is draped over your back like a cloak..

We have a couple of guys on the bench that offer threatening speed but obviously little else..

@warrendawg said:

So Colt at QB

Hillis and Hardesty 50/50 in the back feild

MoMass as number 1, but as year goes on becomes number 2 behind Little. and Cribbs number 3....

Just my thought....

What about Robiskie? Practice squad? Trade? Maybe trade him for a case of Michelob Light?

No way anybody will give up a case of Michelob Light for Robiske,Weideman is all he may be worth!

@tampadawgs said:

no shit Heckert is the GM, thats who I was talking about..He has done a great job....

i agree. heckert has done great since coming here.

holmgren is a fat blowhard. never liked him. (just my opinion).

hangin' his head on the sidelines. when the Brown's cut Robo his first stop should be at hartlines annual football camp.

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@warrendawg said:

After three games, McCoy has completed more passes to himself, than to Robiskie.

This is the funniest thing I've read all day!

As for Holgrem, of course Seattle was going to start trending down, they have a bad front office making bad draft choices and bad coaching.. Besides they are wanting to shit the bed so they can take Andrew Luck..

As for Robo, I did not put him in my thoughts of my starting lineup, because I do not think he should be no where neer the field.

Practice team or cut him...Simple....It is a shame because I really like him at Ohio State, and thought he would do well in the NFL..

one more thing, I also think that we need to go no huddle in the beginning of the game to get our offense moving. We look horrable in the first Quarter. We do not need to do it the whole game just in the beginning to get going...

@tampadawgs said:

Uhhh why are the Patriots good every year...REALLY...Tom Brady is why, Pats have ZERO DEFENSE. No running game, and no Wide outs( Besides Welker) they do have a great TE group)

As for a GM he Sucks...REALLY. I hope your joking. We have 4 starters on Defense from the past 2 drafts, who all could be pro bowl type players..HADAN is a PRO BOWL PLAYER...

New system on Offense will only get better each week, but I am still not sold on Colt, Dont know why...Our offense of line is not good with Steinbach out, that really hurts our line. That being said Colt has only been sacked 4 times, but he is running for his life. He have players that can make plays

he's not the GM ass, heckert is.

everything else you said i agree with though.

holmgren good? where's seattle now? he left them in great shape!

Hillis and Hardesty 50/50 in the back feild

MoMass as number 1, but as year goes on becomes number 2 behind Little. and Cribbs number 3....

Just my thought....

What about Robiskie? Practice squad? Trade? Maybe trade him for a case of Michelob Light?

@miktoxic said:

yeah robiskie was drafted in 2009. heckert didn't come in until 2010.

my questiong of the front office goes more towards holmgren.

how come the patriots are good every year and they are never drafting big names? what's the big name WR they have. ocho? wes welker is the only guy i can name. yet they draft no name talent and their rookies go out and perform. their OL is almost always solid and their defense is good.

WTF?

edit: i know they do a lot in FA, something that we can't compete with because no one wants to come to a perennial loser.

Uhhh why are the Patriots good every year...REALLY...Tom Brady is why, Pats have ZERO DEFENSE. No running game, and no Wide outs( Besides Welker) they do have a great TE group)

As for a GM he Sucks...REALLY. I hope your joking. We have 4 starters on Defense from the past 2 drafts, who all could be pro bowl type players..HADAN is a PRO BOWL PLAYER...

New system on Offense will only get better each week, but I am still not sold on Colt, Dont know why...Our offense of line is not good with Steinbach out, that really hurts our line. That being said Colt has only been sacked 4 times, but he is running for his life. He have players that can make plays

If I was running the offense this is what I would do.

Hardesty would get 15-20 touches a game, either running the ball or screen passes. He is the real deal, just needs to stay healthy

Hillis would get the same 15-20 touches a game, it would be harder for hillis because he does not have the same O-line as last year to open up holes, plus losing Vickers hurts. Thats why he is only Averageing 3.4 yards a game. Hardesty is a little more shifty and has that cut back move that all great backs have...

Momass is fine everybody wants to jump on his case, I think hes fine

Little- Will be a Monster by end of the year, remember did not play last year at N.C

Cribbs- say what u want, had a groin problem and still made a great catch in the end zone he should get 8-12 touches a game

So Colt at QB

Hillis and Hardesty 50/50 in the back feild

MoMass as number 1, but as year goes on becomes number 2 behind Little. and Cribbs number 3....

Just my thought....

@marcus said:

Those were at the tail end of his tenure there. I recall plenty of seasons where everyone was saying Donovan McNabb needed more receivers to take the next step. So sure they picked up a couple of home run hitters at the end but for the most part WR's isn't what you'd call his area of expertise.

He was only the GM of the Eagles from 2006-09 and while he was the GM Andy Reid was also the Executive VP of football ops. Heckert was honestly more of an advisor to Reid then an actual GM as Reid ultimately had the final say in everything. His being more of a puppet for Andy Reid is probably why he came here.

@medicineman said:

I think we should have kept Chancy Stucky over Robo. But either way 2 and 1 is way better than 0 and 3

Didn't stucky fumble in OT or late in the fourth this year already costing his team a win? no thanks.

@miktoxic said:

yeah robiskie was drafted in 2009. heckert didn't come in until 2010.

my questiong of the front office goes more towards holmgren.

how come the patriots are good every year and they are never drafting big names? what's the big name WR they have. ocho? wes welker is the only guy i can name. yet they draft no name talent and their rookies go out and perform. their OL is almost always solid and their defense is good.

WTF?

edit: i know they do a lot in FA, something that we can't compete with because no one wants to come to a perennial loser.

In case you forgot Holmgren didn't get here until 2010 either. Kind of hard to build a team the quality of the Patriots in a matter of 2 years.

@bringbackbrownie2 said:

Do the names DeSean Jackson and Jeremy Maclin ring a bell?

Those were at the tail end of his tenure there. I recall plenty of seasons where everyone was saying Donovan McNabb needed more receivers to take the next step. So sure they picked up a couple of home run hitters at the end but for the most part WR's isn't what you'd call his area of expertise.

@wrrebel said:

Wait I have said the last 2 years how we need to sign a wrs.. I'm telling u it isn't rocket science to see robiske is a bust.

Momass would be a good number 2 wr with a team who had a very good number 1.

Little is raw but we should play him anyway. No reason to have robiske on the field or even on the roster..

Hello to mr heckert, ur an idiot!

yeah robiskie was drafted in 2009. heckert didn't come in until 2010.

my questiong of the front office goes more towards holmgren.

how come the patriots are good every year and they are never drafting big names? what's the big name WR they have. ocho? wes welker is the only guy i can name. yet they draft no name talent and their rookies go out and perform. their OL is almost always solid and their defense is good.

WTF?

edit: i know they do a lot in FA, something that we can't compete with because no one wants to come to a perennial loser.

@marcus said:

I really don't think WR's are Heckert's cup o' tea. It was the same in Philly when he was there.

Do the names DeSean Jackson and Jeremy Maclin ring a bell?

@wrrebel said:

Wait I have said the last 2 years how we need to sign a wrs.. I'm telling u it isn't rocket science to see robiske is a bust.

Momass would be a good number 2 wr with a team who had a very good number 1.

Little is raw but we should play him anyway. No reason to have robiske on the field or even on the roster..

Hello to mr heckert, ur an idiot!

Robiske is not Heckert's problem. He was drafted before Heckert got here. We still have so many needs at different positions that you can't blame him for not picking a WR. I bet you guys would blame him for not drafting a defensive lineman and complained about that if we had got a WR in the 1st round instead of Taylor.

And as for Little, sure I want to see if he can play too. But he is a rookie with hardly any experience. Shurmur may feel he doesn't know the playbook well enough yet who knows? But either way, this is a coaching decision and again has nothing to do with Heckert.

@wrrebel said:

Wait I have said the last 2 years how we need to sign a wrs.. I'm telling u it isn't rocket science to see robiske is a bust.

Momass would be a good number 2 wr with a team who had a very good number 1.

Little is raw but we should play him anyway. No reason to have robiske on the field or even on the roster..

Hello to mr heckert, ur an idiot!

I really don't think WR's are Heckert's cup o' tea. It was the same in Philly when he was there.

Momass would be a good number 2 wr with a team who had a very good number 1.

Little is raw but we should play him anyway. No reason to have robiske on the field or even on the roster..

Hello to mr heckert, ur an idiot!

@king-ghoolie-lives said:

Dude,

I have been ringing that bell for 10 years now. These fukcing idiots want to draft more offensive linemen.

It isn't just WRs we don't have. We have no running game. As long as 9 defenders stay within 10 yards of the line......... we will have NO OFFENSE.

5 OL CANNOT block NINE defenders.

THAT is the problem.

SHIT players.

You can't have it both ways Tom. No burners would mean no respect for a deep threat, so D can crowd the line. BTW, we had one O-line fatass hurt, and a rookie at the other position = 3 guys on Hillis as soon as he touched the ball. Peyton is good, but he can't run through seven guys, so there's your reason for no running game. If you happened to be watching MNF, hope you noticed the Patriots o-line was giving Brady all day to throw = 500+ yards passing.

And I happen to agree, it looks like Robiski is a major bust, and Massaquoi is a small one. You don't draft a guy in the second round to be a slot receiver, which is what MoMas would be on most other teams. Little shows some promise however, and Cribbs can be decent if the o-line could ever give McCoy more than two seconds before he has to start running for his life.

@cribbs-is-the-man said:

Alshon Jeffries or Justin Blackmon are looking pretty darn good right now if we end up in the top 10... One of them, Little, Massaquoi, Cribbs, Moore, Norwood, and Mitchell sounds pretty damn good to me.. but I do think we need to consistently draft a O-Lineman in the 3rd or 4th round as well as a late pick for depth. Consistency is key on the Oline and injuries are rampant. we gotta get the defense out of the box with an actual #1 WR but also our Oline has always been a problem and football starts in the trenches for sure.

Both really great talents. If I had to pick one id go with Blackmon...dude is a dog out there.

And if we don't take a weapon with our first pick, im going to organize a march through downtown cleveland