@jnuh said:

I also ment in his pre season play which was far from impressive and not typically against elite talent playing at a high level.

Which is even less to go by, considering the complete lack of preparation time.

Just give it time.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

You say "until the Colts game" like he's been playing for years and the Colts game was his first sign of life. The Bengals game was his first NFL game, and people are shitting on him because he looked like a rookie. In his rookie game.

I also ment in his pre season play which was far from impressive and not typically against elite talent playing at a high level.

@jnuh said:

I hope you aren't taking my statement as me jumping the gun. By no means am I ready to call him a bust even if he ran off a string of say 5 bad games. He is a rookie with limited off season activities to get him up to speed. I am just simply stating I haven't seen much of him as a pro to make me a believer and I did not follow him in college at all. I wouldn't even call him a bust after the season unless he was absolutely brutal. With that being said though I also won't call him the savior at DE after one good game ... or a string of 5 or 6 good games.

no...i was kind of agreeing with you in that you said you'd wait to pass judgment after getting some more games under his belt. my comment was a general observation of this board....everyone either sucks or is a beast based on what they did last week.

for instance...robo has no catches in 2....two games.....so he must suck. its very black and white in a grey world with many on here.

sheard had some monster moments in preseason and i think he and taylor will be just what we needed (could still use another DE).

i want to see if hardesty can play in a game other than the fourth quarter and other than in goal line situations. we need to spell hillis at least once in a while for everyone's sake.

Zombo said:

Heckert is hitting these draft picks out of the park and fans are still crabby like it is 2008. Don't understand it.

These guys are players: Sheard, Taylor, Little, Pinkston, Marecik, Haden, Ward, McCoy, Lauvao...

Asuming Little is staring by ... oh let's say next week ... that's 9 starters out of two drafts ... 6 of them with Pro Bowl potential

Zombo

--but let's go back to bitching about not signing a f/a WR...

I agree that Heckert is doing a great job in the draft, and I really like who he's picked up. But 6 with Pro Bowl potential??? Either you have a muchhhh looser interpretation of the word "potential" or you are wayy too optimistic.

@jnuh said:

I have loved the last 2 drafts. I didn't love the Ward pick when it happened, but love it now. I also still question the Hardesty pick. With that being said I am still not a huge fan of Sheard. He showed absolutely nothing until the Colts game. He did show a lot of improvement in the Colts game though, but I need to see it over a longer period of time.

You say "until the Colts game" like he's been playing for years and the Colts game was his first sign of life. The Bengals game was his first NFL game, and people are shitting on him because he looked like a rookie. In his rookie game.

@1-more-season said:

I'm guessing this will happen. Little should start and Robo can sit although[ today in the Presser Shurmur called Robo a "real" receiver not just a blocker. ]Little is a talented Rookie coming off a year of not playing so he should be coming around by game 3.

Sheard over running plays is a good thing because over-committing can be fixed. It just shows that you can and have the ability to get free. You just have to learn to make the right decision when you do.

2 games 0 catches 0 yards 0 touchdowns that's a "real" receiver.

every second of the play. Has terrific body control. He's a rookie - and the things he did in the last game, was just a start. I don't know of any reason

why he won't be a whole lot better later. And that means, to me, he's going to really be terrific.

The other thing I wanted to mention, was that Pinkston was a... fourth round pick? Starting on the oline with such a short time to

get into the NFL groove in training camp.... that can NOT be easy for an olineman. Apparently, as a rookie, he's a far better choice at LG than

Cousins, from the gitgo. That's a pretty nice choice in the round he was picked, I think..

@choco said:

^^^ that was more my point...

if sheard has a bad game against miami, there will be threads saying hes a bust. can we temper making these premature evaluations until we get more film than 2 games?

talk about jumping the gun....

I hope you aren't taking my statement as me jumping the gun. By no means am I ready to call him a bust even if he ran off a string of say 5 bad games. He is a rookie with limited off season activities to get him up to speed. I am just simply stating I haven't seen much of him as a pro to make me a believer and I did not follow him in college at all. I wouldn't even call him a bust after the season unless he was absolutely brutal. With that being said though I also won't call him the savior at DE after one good game ... or a string of 5 or 6 good games.

if sheard has a bad game against miami, there will be threads saying hes a bust. can we temper making these premature evaluations until we get more film than 2 games?

talk about jumping the gun....

@bob806 said:

I agree, let's start Little next week, no need for Robiskie to start. I think the guy is a big upgrade, and we can put Cribbs in the slot.

I hope they get the right side of the O-line in order.

I'm guessing this will happen. Little should start and Robo can sit although today in the Presser Shurmur called Robo a "real" receiver not just a blocker. Little is a talented Rookie coming off a year of not playing so he should be coming around by game 3.

Sheard over running plays is a good thing because over-committing can be fixed. It just shows that you can and have the ability to get free. You just have to learn to make the right decision when you do.

Zombo said:

Heckert is hitting these draft picks out of the park and fans are still crabby like it is 2008. Don't understand it.

These guys are players: Sheard, Taylor, Little, Pinkston, Marecik, Haden, Ward, McCoy, Lauvao...

Asuming Little is staring by ... oh let's say next week ... that's 9 starters out of two drafts ... 6 of them with Pro Bowl potential

Zombo

--but let's go back to bitching about not signing a f/a WR...

I agree, let's start Little next week, no need for Robiskie to start. I think the guy is a big upgrade, and we can put Cribbs in the slot.

I hope they get the right side of the O-line in order.

@calfoxwc said:

I'm amazed the Browns got him...

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Sheard finished his Pitt career with 142 tackles (80 solo) in 45 games. He also racked up 19.5 sacks (18 solo), 35.5 tackles for loss, 16 passes defensed, five forced fumbles, and 38 quarterback hurries. Generally speaking,

Sheard has impressive speed in every direction — he's obviously quick around the edge in pass rush situations, but what makes him a complete end is his lateral agility and ability to back off into coverage and to catch up to downfield runners. Especially quick after he turns past the tackle and is closing in on the ballcarrier. Uses well-developed inside-out and outside-in moves at the line to gain the edge at the start of the play. Closes in well out of a wide set and doesn't take too long getting around the edge; there isn't a lot of wasted motion in his game. Has a decent rip move to help him disrupt, though he could be more consistent with this. Determined player who plays from snap to whistle, even when he's originally boxed out by a block.

Big improvement from game one to game two. Sheard was over running plays badly against the Bengals, creating big holes for Benson to run through. Kid had a nice game Sunday, and maybe Shurmur and Jauron will be smart enough to not try pounding square pegs into round holes. If Sheard plays better on the left side, let him play there.

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Sheard finished his Pitt career with 142 tackles (80 solo) in 45 games. He also racked up 19.5 sacks (18 solo), 35.5 tackles for loss, 16 passes defensed, five forced fumbles, and 38 quarterback hurries. Generally speaking,

Sheard has impressive speed in every direction — he's obviously quick around the edge in pass rush situations, but what makes him a complete end is his lateral agility and ability to back off into coverage and to catch up to downfield runners. Especially quick after he turns past the tackle and is closing in on the ballcarrier. Uses well-developed inside-out and outside-in moves at the line to gain the edge at the start of the play. Closes in well out of a wide set and doesn't take too long getting around the edge; there isn't a lot of wasted motion in his game. Has a decent rip move to help him disrupt, though he could be more consistent with this. Determined player who plays from snap to whistle, even when he's originally boxed out by a block.