@cdl15 said:

umm no.... I didn't mind mangini but he inherited a football team worth of competing with the elites. But he gets rid of two first round playmakers kw2 and braylon. One of his first draft picks is gone and the other one has one foot out da door. The one draft pick he hits on was prob the safest and can't miss players in mack. But he flopped in that draft. If MH and heckertt fell that far back with that many trades we would had three or for first round picks the next year. But no we go inadequate depth that is no longer on team and shitty picks that are gone or soon to be goners. The jets didn't want his ass either.

Inherited a team of competing with the elites?! HAHAHAHA.... you're crazy brother.

Mangini brought over all his ex or former jets and transformed the team as best he could. Smart Athletic and Tough was his mantra. He started to amass those players and got the most out of them. They played hard and disciplined football. Teams didn't look forward to playing the Browns last season like they do now.

Dude's right, this offense is unwatchable.

He also hinted next year that Shumer will replaced as the OC...really..So is Mike coaching the team

and making those sorts of decisions.

Please no one mention Mangini and conservative play calling..Have you been watching this Browns team?

Last year this team was soo much better..The 2010 team smacked the s**t out of everybody..I guarentee

no team was looking forward to playing them....FF TO 2011 As one Texan player quoted "It was like Christmas out there"

WCO..Cleveland offense is now the laughing stock of the NFL..I think most teams know the play before its called

because of Shumur's tendencies.

I have NOT once seen Colt audible out of a play this year and anyone who doesn't think Colt looked better under

Daboll/Mangini should stop watching football immediatly.

There is only one word to describe the 2011 Browns

UNWATCHABLE

Zombo said:

I must have missed that.

Mangini is the only one that stressed accountability. Wish he would have gotten four years.

Z

I'm with ya.

Hi guys.

See ya Saturday and Sunday.

WSS

@the-cysko-kid said:

Good for you, I don't care enough to think much about your posts so you need not worry about it. It's just that you keep saying people don't get what football is about, then refuse to validate that statement by telling me what you think its about. Awesome. I guess I should stop watching football as its inconcievable my tiny brain could comprehend the MEANING of it all.

rich is a steeler fan who thinks that we should pile up on big name playmakers but needn't worry about the OL. that we can win when the QB is running for his life because there is no pass protection.

what do you think about that concept?

@cdl15 said:

umm no.... I didn't mind mangini but he inherited a football team worth of competing with the elites.

?????? Wow.

@cantonlegend said:

why didnt you like mangini? he put together a team that was capable of beating the league's elite. he was drafting very well and building a team that was going to competei

umm no.... I didn't mind mangini but he inherited a football team worth of competing with the elites. But he gets rid of two first round playmakers kw2 and braylon. One of his first draft picks is gone and the other one has one foot out da door. The one draft pick he hits on was prob the safest and can't miss players in mack. But he flopped in that draft. If MH and heckertt fell that far back with that many trades we would had three or for first round picks the next year. But no we go inadequate depth that is no longer on team and shitty picks that are gone or soon to be goners. The jets didn't want his ass either.

@miktoxic said:

man there's too much shit going on in the world to make this that much of a priority. i just love the people that take such a hard line stance one way or the other that it throws their ability to think clearly askew.

hey, if we start winning (ha!) and shurmur turns out to be a flippin genius i'll be the first to come on here and eat shit pie and say i was wrong.

but to say that this team now is better than what mangini put on the field last year, that this team is playing as hard or with as much enthusiasm or hope...is plain dumb.

i said that to rich by the way who happens to be a steeler's fan. don't you know that? do you read his posts?

also i could give 2 FXXKS what you think about what i post.

Good for you, I don't care enough to think much about your posts so you need not worry about it. It's just that you keep saying people don't get what football is about, then refuse to validate that statement by telling me what you think its about. Awesome. I guess I should stop watching football as its inconcievable my tiny brain could comprehend the MEANING of it all.

@the-cysko-kid said:

You keep saying this over and over everytime anyone says anything you don't agree with. Since you're such a guru, lombardi, why don't you enlighten us all to what football is REALLY about.

man there's too much shit going on in the world to make this that much of a priority. i just love the people that take such a hard line stance one way or the other that it throws their ability to think clearly askew.

hey, if we start winning (ha!) and shurmur turns out to be a flippin genius i'll be the first to come on here and eat shit pie and say i was wrong.

but to say that this team now is better than what mangini put on the field last year, that this team is playing as hard or with as much enthusiasm or hope...is plain dumb.

i said that to rich by the way who happens to be a steeler's fan. don't you know that? do you read his posts?

also i could give 2 FXXKS what you think about what i post.

@cantonlegend said:

kind of sad when a saints fan knows more about your team than you do huh?

Ha ha Thats a good one.

I voted for robiskie.

@1-more-season said:

I wasn't asking a question. I didn't need an answer from a saints fan.

kind of sad when a saints fan knows more about your team than you do huh?

@miktoxic said:

you are such an ass and have no comprehension of what football is about.

fool.

You keep saying this over and over everytime anyone says anything you don't agree with. Since you're such a guru, lombardi, why don't you enlighten us all to what football is REALLY about.

@king-ghoolie-lives said:

Great Post Mik...................

People don't remember just how well Tim Couch did once he got to play behind a world-class OL like they had in Green Bay.

LOL, we had fans right here on this board bitching at my NEGATIVITY, assuring me that I didn't know jack about football because it takes time, mentoring and working on mechanics that makes a QB.

FUNEEEEEEE, nobody wants to talk about that, do they?

OL? Dime a Dozen players. Easy to find.

We spend too much on our OL.

I'm surprised you're not defending your henchman here ghoolie.

@1-more-season said:

Now we all love mangini. You guys have lost it.

we get the fact that you are all-in with holmgren and shurmur. some people go through life with blinders on.

@1-more-season said:

Now we all love mangini. You guys have lost it.

why didnt you like mangini? he put together a team that was capable of beating the league's elite. he was drafting very well and building a team that was going to compete

he was given a shitty team and was on the brink of building something worthy of being called an NFL team

mangini was fired too early and the guy knew exactly what it took to win in the league. you dont like him because you dont like any coach that cant win in cleveland......well guess what re-re....nobody is going to win in cleveland with only 2 years, a brand new QB and a city full of fans that hate him

you wonder why hillis doesnt wanna play here anymore? theres your answer sherlock

@mr.-t said:

Carmen Policy was in charge back then also. And we didn't have some buttfuggin homo socker queen as the owner also during that time.

I love socKer.

Zombo said:

Do you see a better one on that list?

Zombo

As a pure football coach, Butch Davis may well have been the best of the bunch. But he did his best Billy Idol imitation and kept asking for more...more....more. He wasn't content just to be the HC.

@roach said:

Running up the middle with a no-name RB when you are down 21 in the 1st half? i've had it.

Sure let's keep running right over Pinkston when he's sucking so badly we had to put Hicks in to replace him. Metcalf up the middle tralalala.

No, kicking a field goal when you're on the Texans 35 and down three scores in the third quarter did me in. Yup all we need is three TDs, and hold the rushing juggernaut Texans scoreless.

My comments on that one are unprintable.

@cdl15 said:

Palmer is the only one to put a playoff caliber team together

Carmen Policy was in charge back then also. And we didn't have some buttfuggin homo socker queen as the owner also during that time.

Lets see Tim career QB rating is 75.1, hes married to a former playmate. He tired a couple of comebacks after going under the knife on his shoulder, took Roids, got huge and was booed out of Green Bay during a pre-season game.

Tim was the best QB we have had since we came back, but he got killed every game and devoped happy feet..wouldnt you? Problem is that if Colt keeps getting Killed the samething will happen