@calfoxwc said:

This is stupid. They showed the replay where Mack moved his right foot over at the snap of the ball. His ankle was hit by the snap.

"ALIENS CAME DOWN, AND FORCED THE BAD SNAP !!!!!!!!! OMG, WE HAVE BEEN INVADED BY LITTLE STEELER COCKROACHES FROM

THE PLANET MORON, HOLMGREN INVITED THEM TO COME HERE AND KILL US ALL - AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHGHGHGHGHGHGHG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Come on, man. This forum is getting stunk up enough without this nonsense.

YES!!! exactly. This forum is getting bombarded with garbage. How can a guy go on a rant like that, watch the game, tell other people to go look at the replay lol when if fact hes the one who needs to go back and look at the replay. Obviously most of us know Mack hit the ball by stepping over to early.....SMH

Hope everyone enjoys the new title

You hear stories of these moron NFL players that are now broke. I haven't read anything that would make me think the game is fixed by the players.

The refs on the other hand... that's more believable.

Even if we did get luck shurmur would not know what to do with him and we would be saying we sucked for luck and luck sucks..

Luck will fit perfectly in indy however no QB that has ever existed would fit in clevelands current offense..

@calfoxwc said:

This is stupid. They showed the replay where Mack moved his right foot over at the snap of the ball. His ankle was hit by the snap.

"ALIENS CAME DOWN, AND FORCED THE BAD SNAP !!!!!!!!! OMG, WE HAVE BEEN INVADED BY LITTLE STEELER COCKROACHES FROM

THE PLANET MORON, HOLMGREN INVITED THEM TO COME HERE AND KILL US ALL - AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHGHGHGHGHGHGHG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Come on, man. This forum is getting stunk up enough without this nonsense.

Yeah, but you have to admit! Shit is fishy! 12 years back, and we're still going through the same old bullshit??!! Just sayin'.

"ALIENS CAME DOWN, AND FORCED THE BAD SNAP !!!!!!!!! OMG, WE HAVE BEEN INVADED BY LITTLE STEELER COCKROACHES FROM

THE PLANET MORON, HOLMGREN INVITED THEM TO COME HERE AND KILL US ALL - AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHGHGHGHGHGHGHG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Come on, man. This forum is getting stunk up enough without this nonsense.

@soju said:

This was orchestrated folks, no DOUBT about it.

If the ownership and/or coaching staff want the Browns to F -up to the point where they contend for the number one pick overall, so be it.

Pontbriand just "manages" to mess up on the play that wins the ballgame?

No way.

Football is a game of politics, and we fans aren't in the backroom when the deals are made.

Pontbriand was instructed to F.Cuk up the snap to lose the game. It was blatant--he threw the ball in the grass! It was so obvious. Look at the replay.

You think otherwise, you're a naive fool.

/Officially checking out of this season.

See you next year, which just so happens to be the year that the management has targeted to go after free agents and make a run.

The rest of these games, and season for all that matters, is a wash and has been designed by the one and only, fat man Walrus or one of his underlings.

You think I don't know what I'm talking about? Guess again, football is a game of politics, and we are in it for the ups and downs that THEY manufacture up top.

This game was proof.

So you're suggesting that games could be fixed? I've always had my supspicions, and you know what, it wouldn't suprise me? But if we're talking conspiracy, then let's take this a step further, shall we??? All of these previous regimes had guys with Super Bowl rings, yet when they get here they SUCK!!!!! Could it be possible that the NFL set up a deal on purpose to make sure the Browns suck! I mean, after all, we all know Modell was well liked in the NFL circles, and that is evident, because only 2 other owners voted against the move! It could be the NFL's way of saying "fine Cleveland, you want your football team back? OK, but don't expect them to ever be competitive!" Let's not forget that Cleveland nationally is always under constant scrutiny! I hate to even suggest that it could be scripted, but you can't WRITE a better tragedy than this!