@miktoxic said:

no they get tested for roids now. that's why they all turned to hgh, which the league has been side steepin for years.

clay matthews is breathing a sigh of relief.

You ain't shittin! I bet 50% or more of the LB's and Linemen are on HGH! Look at where Merriman's career went right after he got caught. Now that he is under the microscope and can't load up, he's worthless!

@wrrebel said:

Come on, if people don't believe that these guys are still using steroids, hgh or other performing enhancing drugs your crazy.

Look at athletes from decade to decade. You can say training tehniques and diets have played a factor, but they have gotten bigger, stronger and faster.

People who point to testing don't know much about steroids and how to get around tests.

Brian cushing, clay matthews, ray lewis, sebastian janakowski all juice balls.

I would say that at least half the nfl uses hgh and steroids.

By the way does anyone know where I can score some?

ebay... seriously

Look at the Mr. Olympias of today. All those clowns get tested for steroids and only once in a blue moon someone gets busted. Those guys have test flowing in their veins.

@wrrebel said:

Come on, if people don't believe that these guys are still using steroids, hgh or other performing enhancing drugs your crazy.

Look at athletes from decade to decade. You can say training tehniques and diets have played a factor, but they have gotten bigger, stronger and faster.

yep and humans will mix and merge into one day looking all the same... like this bizzle back:

Look at athletes from decade to decade. You can say training tehniques and diets have played a factor, but they have gotten bigger, stronger and faster.

People who point to testing don't know much about steroids and how to get around tests.

Brian cushing, clay matthews, ray lewis, sebastian janakowski all juice balls.

I would say that at least half the nfl uses hgh and steroids.

By the way does anyone know where I can score some?

and damn, way to through a guy under the bus.........how bout something along the lines of "hey, we had no offseason or any of the workouts/conditioning that may have prevented something like this."?

@king-ghoolie-lives said:

Fair enough speculation, and surely there is nobody here who doesn't believe Hillis is a Steroid built player.

However, his "injury" if indeed is a real injury (I don't believe he is hurt), is more indicative of a big, bullish, straight ahead runner who just doesn't have the body to be an NFL running back and instead just yanked his own crank running into brick walls.

Big Bangers don't last long in the NFL. Hillis is nowhere in the league or talent pool as guys like Bettis, Campbell, Czonka or Pete Johnson.

I think all you are seeing is Hillis being VERY astutue in realizing that the jig was up. In other words, once our opponents got a fix on him, they accounted for im, theu stuffed him and Hillis knew if he kept running and vetting 1.8 yards, his stock would drop.

So what's he do? He fakes an injury, knowing full well it will piss people off, BUT BUT BUT............. if you had an NFL career, would you REALLY FIGHT to keep it in Cleveland? C mon, be real.

WHen he locates his new team in 2012, his agent will "sell" Hillis on the 2010 film clips of Hillis, "assure" the new team that Hillis is ready to physically return to that level" and boom, Hillis will get a few more games of running daylight until THAT division accounts for him.

Bottom Line? Hillis is an average NFL running back. The only teams in the NFL he could start for are Cleveland and perhaps 2 other of the shit teams. He is just not good, THAT is what is going on here. Hillis is trying to make the best of his never-again-to-be-found success.

Hillis is done.

Just like you told everyone Kellen Winslow was done..LOL...you have more bullshit than a cow...

clay matthews is breathing a sigh of relief.