1) Rich and Ghoolie were wrong

2) Rich and Ghoolie were first to be wrong

3) Rich and Ghoolie continued to be wrong

4) Flugel forgot they were wrong until Ghoolie reminded him

5) Unrelated but worth mentioning: Flugel is really good at Texas Hold Em while Jim Tressell is not

6) I truely believe that if we ever consumated this old war of the predictions with a handshake, Rich would have paid me every penny.

- Tom F.

@rich4eagle said:

Read your first post in this thread da Ich. Enough said.

And the Vegasdawg was on Nav's board. I see senility has set in.

@rich4eagle said:

Which part of Tressel is overrated?

Oh knock that nonsense off. Is your name Ghoolie? READ what's written so you can EXHALE. You BOTH vowed Mo Clarett was gonna have 10 times the pro career that William Green was going to have and your buddy Ghoolie brought up Green right? You can own that - you guys were first to predict that until I called your bluff. Take your battle armour off and relax. You're no fun when we get negative on the Coaches and teams YOU like. You see how annoyed you're getting Rich?

Second, WHAT SPECIFIC brain fart put Miami BACK in the game against OSU? HINT: It was punt that remained in-bounds to one of THE MOST dangerous return men in college football at the time. DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB. It took about 7 seconds of carelessness to almost completely undo an entire night of great effort. If that were better prepared for - we don't even have to bring up the interference later in the game. It would have been a non-issue and unrequired.

Third, Tressell doesn't beat any REAL teams all season long - what's the Big 10's record out of conference these days? You and Ghoolie already told us Ferentz was a joke so it looks like we can't even count Iowa if we're staying with your criteria. I'm baffled at how overwhelming the forward pass remains to the Big 10.

As for the Browns, didn't they FIRE the guy you call Sewage? Didn't they FIRE RAC? Now why does THAT bother you?

Have you once considered sharing who you'd like us to hire at GM and Head Coach?

You and Ghoolie want LOVE in here after you insult everyone. Here's your typical post: "I was first to get it while the rest of the morons on this board were too stupid." Then you complain when they golden rule your ass. I'm not gonna repeat what I wrote the other day, you know what I said about the both of ya before yuz decided to ugly up the tones. Again, I didn't even bring up William Green - I just took the golden opportunity to ask Ghoolie why he's been hiding after his Hall of Fame predictions for Mo Clarett ended up in the same orange uniform OJ wears.

And which recruits made better pros? Gholston? Clarett? Pittman? Ginn? Holmes? Carpenter? Michael Jenkins? Krenzel?, Mike Doss? Matt Wilhelm or Andre Johnson, Clinton Portis, Edge James, Devon Hester, Ed Reed, Sean Taylor, Antelle Rolle, Reggie Wayne, Frank Gore, Willis McGahee, Jon Vilma, DJ Williams, Jeremy Shockey, Kellen Winslow and Vince Wilfork? John Cooper produced more NFL superstars than Tressell has.

- Tom F.

@rich4eagle said:

Moreso, it is totally frigging funny asshole that you can put up a quote and make a statement as to what happened when you were not around at the time........because that discussion occured here and you did not join until recently............ but you indeed know what happened.......... fck yu piunk.....now spew some other horsehit lie about somethng that occurred without your presence........too cool

Thank you for clearing that up Rich. You did say Clarett would do better than Green, there just was no real bet in the world of Rich's betting rules. Very clear now.

Dude, it occured on the ABJ too. I also was on this board, but didn't post very often. Of course most of that was during your ban from here. Oops.

Oh, and you forget people from here would jump over to the ABJ from time to time. Oops

@rich4eagle said:

Said the pot to the kettle.

Masters said:

Oh wait, this was one of those where you pulled the old "I never resposponded back accepting the bet and terms, after offering the bet and it being accepted".

Jesus Rich, pick something where I didn't bust you balls for months and copy and paste your posts over and over on the ABJ.

First off asshole I dictated the terms and demanded they repeated back to consummate any wager and that never happened thus we never had a response to confirm the wager.........in the opposite of your lying misquote above.........but you keep throwing shit on the wall.......cause that is all you can do........turn every frigging thread intoa topic about me........cause YOU ADD NO FRIGGING INSIGHT TO FOOTBALL DISCUSSION HERE

Moreso, it is totally frigging funny asshole that you can put up a quote and make a statement as to what happened when you were not around at the time........because that discussion occured here and you did not join until recently............ but you indeed know what happened.......... fck yu piunk.....now spew some other horsehit lie about somethng that occurred without your presence........too cool

Super Fly said:

No worries chief

That doesn't begin to describe him...

Masters said:

my bad i must of misunderstood you! go Bucks and this rich4 guy sounds like a cornhole!

Super Fly said:

Did I say they didn't? I just said it was pass interference. God forbid I point out it was at least questionable. But I guess I can't be an OSU fan if I call it like I see it

@rich4eagle said:

I will take my ball and go home. What are you, 8 years old

@rich4eagle said:

*cough* bull shit *cough*

Oh wait, this was one of those where you pulled the old "I never resposponded back accepting the bet and terms, after offering the bet and it being accepted".

Jesus Rich, pick something where I didn't bust you balls for months and copy and paste your posts over and over on the ABJ.

Masters said:

you can cry me a river the buckeyes won that game fair and square, to bad that miami couldn't get the no calls like they normally get. oh brother.

@ghoolie said:

Since when is 3 over times and a questionable pass interference call (it was pass interference) handing anyone their ass

@rich4eagle said:

Well if that means you will disappear forever I am all for that.

If you do not rescind your statement about the NON Bet our relationship IS OVER because I am not going to put up with that crap again........

Further

How can Tressel be overrated by having the only winning system in a loser State going to A BCS bowl game seven years out of eight and winning four...........

While the Big Ten stinks and Ohio stinks in every regard in football especially professional as the two professional teams have about three winning seasons between them in twenty years and two playoff appearances

Which part of Tressel is overrated?

You disdain for Tressel is clear and your right ...........Tressel brings em to the party year and year...............and yep he lost three BCS games in a row after winning four in row........MORE THAN ANY OTHER TEAM OR COACH

Explain the overrated part.........and which coach has more BCS games and BCS wins? or wins in general the last eight years

you disdain this winner and admire some losers and keep defending those slugs.............amazing

I am dead serious about the lies about the bet that never was...please rescind that lie comment about a bet that never happened now nearly six years ago instead rekindling that nonsense....you decide what is important to you lying about that crap again or ending our friendship...............no further discussion will occur.........your ball game

@ghoolie said:

Meanwhile Butch Davis and William Green are nowhere to be found. Butch's recruits got their ass handed to them by Tressel.

Given your record Vs Jims, ahhhh, I'll take Tressel.

What's the matter Ghoolie - are we not liking the taste of our own medicine? Tressell is overrated! 70,000 USC fans told me so just in case I refused to believe the scoreboard. And the year before that all the LSU fans were chanting the same thing. And the year before that - all the Florida Gator fans were chanting the same thing. He got outcoached BIG time tonight.

Anyway, you're saying I was EXCITED we scapegoated our very first Head Coach for a college coach? Dude, I've always HATED it when bad management scapegoated 1 of several symptoms. I'm consistent. That said, I have INDEED admitted that turning around a dysfunctional 5-27 football team into a playoff team in just 2 years is a GOOD coaching job. How is it not? The first 2 years weren't the problem when he was ONLY coaching.

Not only that, but in Butch's first year our defense led the entire conference in interceptions with just an average bunch of DBs. And WHY was that? Because the Candyass Brown whom you informed me was a REAL player wasn't healthy so Butch problem solved our crumbled porcelin pillar with Jamir Miller on the edge. I'd say that got an A+ but yammer on.

Butch didn't become the nightmare until he was given GM duty and a salary cap to control along with Head Coaching responsibilites. Did he hire HIMSELF for that job? I never wanted him hired in the first place from college so do the math about what I thought about the promotion into cap management stuff.

And I'm glad you brought up William Green. You never stuck around to look at the scoreboard of the William Green vrs Mo Clarett bet. Why was that? While William Green made the All Rookie team and ran his team into the playoffs - Mo Clarett became the starting RB for the State Pen (not to be confused with Penn State). Clarett never even made an NFL team. You told us he'd make the NFL Hall of Fame right? See, I'll give you credit for being first with that prediction.

- Tom F. (Didn't John Cooper get fired for losing all the Big Games? This hasn't been very much different the last 3 years)

@rich4eagle said:

I think Mr.B needs another beer!

I use to think the Prevent defense was bad .... but this OSu stacking everyone on the line with a lone safety stop the TD is putrid. We didn't even all out blitz, we just lined up 8 on the line as spectators.

Thank God for Beer.

@rich4eagle said:

Honestly... go get some help for that Agent Orange you sniffed back in the day.....

@lemosley01 said:

AWESOME display of football in this half by the Buckeyes

Keep hating the only winning program in a loser STATE OHIO........IN SEWAGE WE TRUST YAH BABY..........where was your caustic manure in the last ten stinking Browns years

Enter TP.

Has 20 yards of open field ahead of him and decides to throw and it should have been picked off.

Exactly what is Tressel trying to do with this 2-QB shenanigan?