@choco said:

How can u say FB is more vital than QB?

I am saying that, at least for now the QB position is in more seemingly competent hands than the FB position and that the performance at the FB position has further to go to improve than does the QB position, not necessarily that the FB position is more critical.

That doesn't mean that I am in favor of drafting another FB (and I would hope that H&H don't use resources on the FB position). I want Marecic to play up to his level of expectation, considering that the Browns drafted him with an asset that was almost as valuable as the one they used to get their QB.

Marecic was the 124th overall pick in the 2011 draft. McCoy was no 85.

But I also note that having outstanding fullback play would have helped this offense last year, and certainly would help it going forward.

And you bring up a philosophical question: given the relative "importance" of the FB in the NFL today, should any team ever draft one higher that say the third or 4th round? CBS Sports ranks the best two Fullbacks in the 2012 draft as only being the 171st and 195th overall best players in this draft. Thus, the Browns having drafted a fullback at #124 have taken someone that should be expected to be the best of the best at his given position, relative to others. In fact, in checking, it appears that not a single fullback per se was drafted in the entire 2010 draft, though it is possible that some FBs may have been mislabeled as RBs.

Point being: Owen Marecic may be the highest drafted player at his position in 2 years..

@htownbrown said:

While I agree with you, I'm also not dumb. If my Dad came to my work to make a big scene and I was as unimpressive as McCoy was all year, I would be a complete dullard to think I could walk through the door and everything is cool. No matter what my boss did. Whether its right or not, his dad was probably the final nail.

Well, his Dad has been watching him play since 7th grade. Thought he was going to be a superstar and is now going to blame everyone and everything except his son's lack of NFL talent.

Does the QB play on this team need to improve? No doubt.

But that is about 10th on the priority list. More vital to this team is the improvement needed at

WR

RT

OLB

OLB

FS

SS

RB

RG

DE

FB

Some of the improvement in these position may come from the current occupants, like Owen Marcic at FB, Shaun Lauvao at RG, maybe an Eric Hagg or Buster Skrine...but they need at least 4 solid starters out of this draft, and one of them is not QB.

I am looking for the Browns to take either Austin Davis or BJ Coleman, or Ryan Lindley, or Nick Foles in like the 5th round.

@choco said:

Nope. Its not his age for me....just other players id prefer at 37.

Okie dokey

@choco said:

not me. in the third, yes. at #37, hells no.

Would you be ok with him at #37 if our #4 pick was Blackmon though?

@cobra-kai said:

I'm tired of this petite, noodle armed, 3rd round failed experiment named Colt McCoy.

If McCoy was the starter for the Colts, Rams, or Vikings, we'd all be assuming they'd be drafting a quarterback ahead of us.

I will take the 3rd round QB over the 7th round HC. Literally....if taking an HC were like taking players in the draft we would have taken our HC as a 7th round longshot.....and he certainly does NOT seem to be a Tom Brady like selection.

@cobra-kai said:

I'm tired of this petite, noodle armed, 3rd round failed experiment named Colt McCoy.

If McCoy was the starter for the Colts, Rams, or Vikings, we'd all be assuming they'd be drafting a quarterback ahead of us.

Don't forget about the lack of accuracy or touch either. All third rounders are a project. Holmgren loves them though, I wouldn't be surprised he doesn't take another one this year to deepen his prospect pool.

@cobra-kai said:

I'm tired of this petite, noodle armed, 3rd round failed experiment named Colt McCoy.

If McCoy was the starter for the Colts, Rams, or Vikings, we'd all be assuming they'd be drafting a quarterback ahead of us.

Lmao.

If McCoy was the starter for the Colts, Rams, or Vikings, we'd all be assuming they'd be drafting a quarterback ahead of us.

@professor_g said:

With the 4th pick overall you have to think the Browns will address QB straightaway.

lord i hope not. too many other positions to worry about.

@jibz said:

Explain! I know the logic is ... since we had no OL that our QB's never had a chance to develop and got beat down... but... you would think that at least one of the many would have developed enough skill to be a starter somewhere... just one of them....

i think couch could've been great but his getting 'beat down' cost him his career.

this team hasn't had the right mixture of talent on the team at the same time since the 80's.

a decent qb, no receivers or oline. a good defense, bad offense. decent receiver and TE, no qb.

just a clusterfxxk overall.

@mark-o said:

He hasn't been on the sidelines because of the injury. Its an NFL safety issue for a player with a concussion.

Watson (before he was put on IR), MoMass, and Marecic were all on the sidelines during home games when they had to sit out do to concussions. Having said that I'm not reading too much into it since it was the last game of the season and I don't think either Norwood or Pashos were on the sideline yesterday either.

@the-gipper said:

The Big Fat Guy should have been called out publicly. His coaching staff has proven incompetent and this incident showed that the medical staff...or whomever was responsible for noticing these things was also incompetent.

If Holmgren doesn't like being called incompetent...THEN FUCKING DON'T BE INCOMPETENT THE WAY YOU ARE NOW!!

While I agree with you, I'm also not dumb. If my Dad came to my work to make a big scene and I was as unimpressive as McCoy was all year, I would be a complete dullard to think I could walk through the door and everything is cool. No matter what my boss did. Whether its right or not, his dad was probably the final nail.

time to cash in the chips and hit the bricks.

@htownbrown said:

I was wondering the same thing. I have also considered that Colt's dad calling out the staff publicly might have rubbed the big fat guy the wrong way.

The Big Fat Guy should have been called out publicly. His coaching staff has proven incompetent and this incident showed that the medical staff...or whomever was responsible for noticing these things was also incompetent.

If Holmgren doesn't like being called incompetent...THEN FUCKING DON'T BE INCOMPETENT THE WAY YOU ARE NOW!!