@cantonlegend said:

Oooooo you mad?

Ur so convinced that colt is the problem but everybody knows the browns entire team needs work.

I would laugh my ass off if the browns took a QB. Everybody that knows anything about anything knows the browns need to get some wrs and some offensive linemen

....not necessarily pro bowl guys...but definitely some guys that can actually catch and block

Actually, no, it would not surprise me if the Browns do take the QB.

@cantonlegend said:

With browns fans, the QB will never be good enough so the browns will keep firing head coaches and bringin in new QBs every other year until the team gets sold and moves again

You are the classic moron that doesn't know a single thing about football...not surprised

OK wizard. You played a mascot in high school so now your the most knowledgeable guy here. Riiiiiggggghhhhht.

Everyone said Colt's a winner, so he must be. His record as starter doesn't count because its everyone else's fault. He had absolutely no role in it. Qbs are not a big part of the offense in this league. Not at all really. The RT, WRs, RBs, TEs, refs, and fans are responsible for this suckfest. Everyone but McCoy is responsible. He has a few more yards than all the QBs in the league that he has played twice as many games than. What a bright future. Besides if you draft a QB you have to donate the rest of your picks to Pittsburgh and your set back a decade.

Tanks 4 lernen me all dis nawlidge wisserd!

@htownbrown said:

Colt is not THE problem as in the only problem. He is A problem. Like you, he just isn't getting it.

Its not like you have to throw away your Colt fathead.

With browns fans, the QB will never be good enough so the browns will keep firing head coaches and bringin in new QBs every other year until the team gets sold and moves again

You are the classic moron that doesn't know a single thing about football...not surprised

@cantonlegend said:

Oooooo you mad?

Ur so convinced that colt is the problem but everybody knows the browns entire team needs work.

I would laugh my ass off if the browns took a QB. Everybody that knows anything about anything knows the browns need to get some wrs and some offensive linemen

....not necessarily pro bowl guys...but definitely some guys that can actually catch and block

Colt is not THE problem as in the only problem. He is A problem. Like you, he just isn't getting it.

Its not like you have to throw away your Colt fathead.

@slowburn said:

First of all...the browns are 0-9...wins and losses go to the team...not 1 player

Secondly, all I heard when colt came out was that he's a winner and he knows how to win. Well what happened?

What happened was he got drafted by a terrible team with absolutely no talent around him. It'll be the same for any other QB that comes to the browns too because nobody can give the guy time to succeed

@cantonlegend said:

Wait? If Greg little only catches it when Seneca plays then why not start Seneca?

Secondly that is exactly my point. 13 games isn't even a full season and he is playing on a team with a terrible oline and wrs that couldn't catch a cold

Give him some weapons and some protection and he could be all world

New offenses to learn, lack of coaching continuity, oline injuries, weak-sister receiving corp...blase, blase. Colt has certainly had his

share of challenges these past 15 months or so but, imho, none of these hoops packaged individualy or lumped together are the kiss-of-death in his transistion

from Longhorn to Brown. You can't overlook his 0 -9 record against north division foes. And you can't help but question his ability (inability?) to make the throw

in those bone chillin, gale force wind blowin' November, December amd January games. Colt is a hard worker. He has a great personality. His wife is aces. It's just that i don't think

he has the juice to be "that guy" as the Browns claw their way back atop the heap.

@htownbrown said:

Alright queef tell me what points to me being wrong? Your Ouija board?

Oooooo you mad?

Ur so convinced that colt is the problem but everybody knows the browns entire team needs work.

I would laugh my ass off if the browns took a QB. Everybody that knows anything about anything knows the browns need to get some wrs and some offensive linemen

....not necessarily pro bowl guys...but definitely some guys that can actually catch and block

@the-gipper said:

Why would Barkley call a press conference to say he was staying? Perhaps he will just reiterate this:

Because he's a prima donna USC QB. He calls press conferences to let people know he has to poop.

Called it, by the way.

@htownbrown said:

Alright queef tell me what points to me being wrong? Your Ouija board?

Nothing you say can hurt him. He's got +10 heavy armor.

@cantonlegend said:

How about just some talent period. Colt has nothing around him right now

Not only that but he's already played under 2 head coaches in 2 seasons

I know ur upset cuz everything points to you bein wrong about it but you have to give a player time

Alright queef tell me what points to me being wrong? Your Ouija board?

@htownbrown said:

Gee, don't you have to give him 3 seasons with an all world WR, an all world OL, and an all world RB before you can 'accurately' declare that?

How about just some talent period. Colt has nothing around him right now

Not only that but he's already played under 2 head coaches in 2 seasons

I know ur upset cuz everything points to you bein wrong about it but you have to give a player time

@the-gipper said:

Barkley is a poor man's version of Colt McCoy.

Gee, don't you have to give him 3 seasons with an all world WR, an all world OL, and an all world RB before you can 'accurately' declare that?

Scouts do have some reservations about Barkley's physical tools. Listed by Southern California at just 6-2, 220 pounds, he doesn't possess the height or bulk preferred at the position and has been protected by a strong Trojan offensive line throughout his career.

Some talent evaluators question whether Barkley has the arm strength to make every NFL throw. Though Southern Cal operates out of a pro-style offense, Barkley is rarely asked to drive the ball to the opposite hash. When he does so, his passes tend to wobble slightly. Because the USC junior has a technically clean set-up, delivery and release, the wobbly passes are thought to be an indication that Barkley may have small hands and only moderate overall arm strength.

While these traits do serve as potential red flags, scouts have much more to like about Barkley than they dislike. As mentioned, Barkley is a technically refined passer well-groomed in a pro-style offense. While many of today's rookie quarterbacks require time on the sideline to acclimate, Barkley is seen as relatively ready to "plug and play." His leadership and toughness have drawn raves from those close to the Southern Cal program. In the history of Southern California no true freshman quarterback had ever earned the starting role in the season opener until Barkley. Operating under the constant glare of Los Angeles sans an NFL team, Barkley is used to being a high-profile athlete in a major media market.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Barkley is also staying at USC, as we'll find out in 30 minutes.

Why would Barkley call a press conference to say he was staying? Perhaps he will just reiterate this:

@harry-buffalo said:

Barkley will be better right away (not taking into account RGIII's run ability putting up points with rushing TD's) but RGIII should be the better QB in 3 years.

Barkley is a poor man's version of Colt McCoy.

@cantonlegend said:

Bpa is a myth. If you take a QB it's because you need one. If you don't need one you will not take one

If kalil is available the browns won't take him because they already have Joe Thomas

Bpa is a joke and a complete myth.

Except, they might take him to play RT, which is a position of need. And if Kalil is there and he is the BPA, I guess the Browns grab him.

trade the farm for a QB? take a RB and a problem child LB in the first?

holy shit id fucking kill someone.

Second choice.. this assumes we aren't taking a QB this year. Depending on whose opinion you believe, RG3 and Barkley don't appear to be absolute locks for NFL stardom. Grab Trent Richardson. With Hillis looking to be gone and Hardesty a possible bust, going into next year with a practice squad running back as your #1 is a thin cupboard. A stud running back usually has the side effect of helping to open up opportunities in the passing game. Our best offensive performances this year have been when a running back has a good game.

Assuming we keep our own first round pick and take Richardson, then I hope to grab Vontaze Burfict with the Atlanta first round pick obtained via the draft day trade last year. I'm going to be pissed if the Ravens end up with this guy taking over for Ray Lewis and being a star.

Yeah, we still need a dynamic WR. Other teams have had success finding good wr's outside the first round. The past Browns regimes have used second and third round picks on mediocre wideouts, see Robiskie, Massaquoi,Travis Wilson. Heckert did pretty well with Greg Little, maybe he can find us another gem outside the first round. There are some good wideouts that may be available via free agency in the offseason, perhaps that avenue could also be used.

@jrb12711 said:

lol, if you really think the offense they run is anywhere the same crap we run then keep dreamin. They started with a concept and modified it for today's game. I have no hope that will happen here. As on last week 75% of our passes were less than 10 yards. Do you think that number is even remotely close in New Orleans or Green Bay? Come on man.

We also don't have the same WR's or QB right now. If we get a QB that can throw more farther down field and do it accuratly and a QR that has some speed to open up the field we would see the team running more long routes.

@nickers said:

Yeah?...Try telling the Packers and Saints its useless....

lol, if you really think the offense they run is anywhere the same crap we run then keep dreamin. They started with a concept and modified it for today's game. I have no hope that will happen here. As on last week 75% of our passes were less than 10 yards. Do you think that number is even remotely close in New Orleans or Green Bay? Come on man.

@cantonlegend said:

Ur right. QB is the problem. Just like it's always been. The browns pick the wrong QB every 2 years...don't you think they wouldve hit on one of them by now?

The browns are the only team in the league that draft a QB as often as they do. They are the only team in the league that thinks the QB is the reason they can't stop anybody on defense...the reason the wrs can't catch...the reason the offensive line can't block and the reason they can't win ever

QBs that find success early are the ones that have talent already around them...unfortunately the browns are too concerned with drafting a new QB every other year so they don't use any picks on the rest of the team.

Cliche I know, but I could not have said it better myself. Coaching same deal. The Browns need CONTINUITY!