@mld-woody said:

Is Cleveland Marshal like a subset of CSU?

Yes. Cleveland-Marshall College of Law is part of Cleveland State Univ.

I'm saving my $$$$ starting today, to take Dad, Canton Mike, myself and my Wifie, to

the Browns' playoff game next season.

Or next season....@@

@canton-mike said:

I refuse to kick the bucket until they are back.

Good luck bro, just turned 36 yesterday and I have my doubts.

To test my memory a bit, I recall how overjoyed I was at drafting Jimmy Brown, upset with trading Bobby Mitchell & Paul Warfield, angry at the firing of the great Paul Brown, & saddened by the untimely death of Ernie Davis. I vividly remember that '64 Championship when we SKUNKED the heavily favored Baltimore Colts 27-0.

There were Glory Years & I refuse to kick the bucket until they are back. Bottom line is that I was raised as a Browns Fan & will certainly die as one.....I just want to leave a winner & you younger folks with the wonderful memories I have.

Mike

Oh and born in and lived in Westlake in my youth

OOPs.

@mld-woody said:

Thank you.

and its cool, I didn't bring myself down. I've been a Michigan fan most of my life. In your eyes I've was already down

Well, being a Michigan fan because you enrolled there because it is a top engineering school is understandable and forgiveable.

Being from Ohio, and being a Michigan fan BEFORE you ever thought about going to school there is unforgiveable.

Sectumsempra!

Thank you.

and its cool, I didn't bring myself down. I've been a Michigan fan most of my life. In your eyes I've was already down

@the-gipper said:

Well, I will only say that appears that you made a good choice from an academic point of view....if not from a sports point of view. I wouldn't put myself down either if I were you.

Even though Hoorta says those rankings mean nothing....the fact is they DO mean something when it comes to being selected to a grad school....or to an employer.

Do you think that my law degree from Akron U. would have gotten me as far as if I had one from Harvard? I can guarandamntee you that it didn't.

Your Top Ten Undergraduate Engineering schools (those that provide a doctorate) per US News and World Report are:

1. MIT

2. Stanford

3. Cal-Berkely

4. Cal Tech

5. Georgia Tech

6. Michigan and Illinois tied.

8. Carnegie-Mellon

9. Cornell and Purdue tied.

Of schools that don't offer a doctorate you have:

1. Harvey Mudd

2. Rose-Hulman IT

3. US Military Academy (Army)

4. Cooper Union

5. Cal Poly Tech SLO

5. US Naval Academy (Navy)

5. US Air Force Academy

8. Franklin Olin

9. Bucknell

10. Villanova

Like I said, sounds like you are doing OK kid. Now get back to studying.

There is definitely something to be said for name-recognition and networking opportunities!

@mld-woody said:

Georgia is too far away.... I like my family.

I shouldn't say I doubt I could get into MIT, I KNOW I can' get into MIT haha. The pressure there would be unbelievable too

Well, I will only say that appears that you made a good choice from an academic point of view....if not from a sports point of view. I wouldn't put myself down either if I were you.

Even though Hoorta says those rankings mean nothing....the fact is they DO mean something when it comes to being selected to a grad school....or to an employer.

Do you think that my law degree from Akron U. would have gotten me as far as if I had one from Harvard? I can guarandamntee you that it didn't.

Your Top Ten Undergraduate Engineering schools (those that provide a doctorate) per US News and World Report are:

1. MIT

2. Stanford

3. Cal-Berkely

4. Cal Tech

5. Georgia Tech

6. Michigan and Illinois tied.

8. Carnegie-Mellon

9. Cornell and Purdue tied.

Of schools that don't offer a doctorate you have:

1. Harvey Mudd

2. Rose-Hulman IT

3. US Military Academy (Army)

4. Cooper Union

5. Cal Poly Tech SLO

5. US Naval Academy (Navy)

5. US Air Force Academy

8. Franklin Olin

9. Bucknell

10. Villanova

Like I said, sounds like you are doing OK kid. Now get back to studying.

@hoorta said:

What dumbass, couldn't get into MIT? Should have gone to Purdue or Georgia Tech instead. Michigan may have some nice academic programs, but those ratings are meaningless.

As a person who has one kid in college and another about to go in, I wouldn't go so far to say that they are meaningless.

Perhaps TOO Much emphasis is put on them.....like blaming or crediting a QB for everything that happens to a team....but like the QB deal, there is SOMEthing to be said about the ratings.

@mld-woody said:

That is quite the list. I doubt I could get into Cal Tech or MIT. Didn't apply to Stanford, Cal, Georgia Tech, etc. Pick Michigan over Purdue and Illinois (and OSU and Cincy).

This nickname didn't come from Woody, but I guess I should be MLD Bo haha

The only things that were ever any good about Michigan came from Ohio.....like Bo. (Barberton)

Or Heisman winners Desmond Howard (Cleveland) and Woodson (Fremont)

You can add your name to the list if you like.

I shouldn't say I doubt I could get into MIT, I KNOW I can' get into MIT haha. The pressure there would be unbelievable too

@mld-woody said:

That is quite the list. I doubt I could get into Cal Tech or MIT. Didn't apply to Stanford, Cal, Georgia Tech, etc. Pick Michigan over Purdue and Illinois (and OSU and Cincy).

This nickname didn't come from Woody, but I guess I should be MLD Bo haha

What dumbass, couldn't get into MIT? Should have gone to Purdue or Georgia Tech instead. Michigan may have some nice academic programs, but those ratings are meaningless.

Browns 4ever!

List of the Top Good Mechanical Engineering Schools

School Name Distinction Location

University of Illinois - Urbana-Champaign Undergraduate externship program with 16 cooperating companies Urbana, IL

University of Michigan - Ann Arbor New research complex broke ground in April 2011 Ann Arbor, MI

Purdue University New LEED-certified wing being added to mechanical engineering building West Lafayette, IN

University of California - Berkeley Offers a D.Eng to interested doctorate-seeking students Berkeley, CA

Cornell University Features the Experiential Learning Laboratory Ithaca, NY

Georgia Institute of Technology Offers the Frank K. Webb Program in Professional Communication Atlanta, GA

Stanford University Highest-ranked mechanical engineering department in the U.S. with a part-time graduate curriculum option Stanford, CA

Massachusetts Institute of Technology Offers several oceanographic and ocean-related degrees Cambridge, MA

Princeton University Offers a program in laser technology Princeton, NJ

California Institute of Technology Features the Jim Hall Design and Prototyping Lab Pasadena, CA

Nevertheless. Good luck with school.

That is quite the list. I doubt I could get into Cal Tech or MIT. Didn't apply to Stanford, Cal, Georgia Tech, etc. Pick Michigan over Purdue and Illinois (and OSU and Cincy).

This nickname didn't come from Woody, but I guess I should be MLD Bo haha

I was in grade school when the Browns won their last championship so I guess I am

in Hoorta and Kathy's bracket.

First diagnosed with symptoms in the early 60s

First full blown outbreak...1967...playoff loss to the Cowboys...like 47-14

Been running full bore into that brick wall ever since...one of these days that damn thing is gonna fall

@calfoxwc said:

even though I may have Kathy beat ...

Uh. Nope. But you are a gentleman for suggesting that you might.

32, born and raised in clarion county PA, an hour north of pittsburgh. my folks were farmers and not really interested in sports, so my uncle (lives in findlay) took me under his wing and made me a browns fan...sometime around 6 years old. my memories of early browns football are insignificant though, since living in stool country much of my life dictates who i watch on sundays.

i actually enjoy being behind enemy lines....people around here generally dont talk football with me cause i end up knowing more about their team than they do.

@hoorta said:

You need to exercise more. shiite, if I could ever roll back the clock I'd stay that age forever.

I'll give you a goal- climb this booger- you'll feel a lot younger. I did @ 28.

Gannet Peak, Highpoint of Wyoming.

Haha It's not from lack of exercise, I run everyday. But that mountain looks like it would be a blast to snowboard down, thats the only way I go up that thing

Cleveland has left me with many emotional scars, If we don't start winning bye time I'm your age I'm gonna be a very bitter old man. Nobody wants another Ghoolie or R4E on the board so we better get this thing turned around.