@king-ghoolie-lives said:

It amazes me, my friend, it really does.

These guys live intheir own world and facts are just a distraction to them. I haven't read the rest of the threads but I imagine nobody wants to compare Ben............. who the law never found any exidence to file charges, versus Jim Brown, who I believe was arrested some 6 or 7 times for crimes including, rape, violence, domestic violence and resisting arrest.

Actually, I don't think JB had any more charges filed against him than did BR....except that one about the car and the golf club.

In Brown's time, it was like Joe Paterno's world ( Or Tressels. or any other powerhouse dynasty), everything was poo-poo'd and swept under the rug.

Brown was teh best RB in his day and perhaps of all time.

As a human being? He makes Ben look like a Saint. Ben is a kid, but he didn't force himself on anyone. Jim Brown is a rapist.

@gafreleets said:

ok, you admitted that Brown = Roethlisberger and said the question is how the franchise reacts.

then you do nothing to illistrate why the Steelers are "not a classy franchise" but the browns are classy to keep JB employed by the franchise up untill last year.

and it wasn't his horrible past transgressions that made them give him the boot, it was the walrus not liking him.

The answer is simple: 1. Jim Brown was acquitted of or every one of those charges were dismissed except for the one where he took a golf club to his own car.. 2. They didn't happen at any time that JB was associated with the Browns. 3. Jim Brown had many, many years of positive public service to the community in the interim. I am sure I could provide you the resume.

Compare:

1. BR's accusations occurred while employed by the Browns.

And from what I have hears, BR hasn't much of a community service portfolio.

(at least nothing we here hear about.

2. There probably isn't an NFL team out there that doesn't have someone associated that has had some legal run in. Someone documented the plethora of Steelers who have issues. The Browns have had their share. Ray Lewis....still a potential murderer in many people's minds is still playing. etc. etc. etc.

Homotron said:

It was thrown out of Criminal court. She then filed a civil suit for the last ditch money grab. Ben admitted to having sex with the chick but she and her attorneys were pushing for defamation of character this and defamation of that etc. His track record as far as being a hound dog isn't the best whether he's now "reformed' or not. He didn't rape this chick just like he didn't rape the other one. He slept around, picked the wrong broad with this one and paid to get it out of his hair. It wasn't "man i have to pay this chick or the REAL stuff is going to come out" it was "man i'm going to pay this chick so I can just get past it".

You don't know the truth of that any more than I do.

And for your information....filing suit isn't "last ditch" for anything. It is the only ditch in a lot of cases.

As noted, criminal and civil liabilities carry a whole different burden of proof.

@gafreleets said:

ok, #1 i don't believe any woman or parents of a child that claim sexual assault or rape and then accept money to be quiet about it.

sorry, no deal. if something that horrific happened to you there would be no way in hell any amount of money would make it ok.

it shows she's nothing but a gold digging ho bag that has major mental issues.

Trust me. You are wrong about that. First off, Just because she settled the lawsuit is no indication that anyone thinks that makes it "OK". This is the only way our society allows for compensation for an act such as this. In some societies past and present it would have been acceptable for the girl's father to cut off BRs dick. No, money is the only way we do things these days on this part of the planet.

#2. don't preach to me about our organization and it's morals when the icon of your franchise (jim brown) was a woman beating rapist himself. go ahead........deny it.

Well, if its OK for Jim Brown it must be OK for BR? Is that your argument?

#3. as i've said before..... don't bring up Ben, and how his alleged actions somehow reflect on the city of Pittsburgh, unless you feel like addressing the fact that cleveland has 500% more child rapists/rapists overall and 400% more per capita. u don't believe me........oh well, it's a fact, look it up on the goverment registered website in my sig. oh, not to mention that Ben (and his morals) is from ohio.

Except, of course, I have proven with authoritave data that you are WRONG about that. Go look up the thread. In fact, Allegheny Co. has a higher sexual assault rate per capita than Cuyahoga Co. Does.

so lets just hush my little turdlings.

Zombo said:

Well they do show one thing: We all we know there are perverts and molesters in every society, but Cleveland does a lot better job of finding them and prosecuting them. I guess you can get away with a lot in Pennsylvania ... especially if you play QB.

Zombo

What do you call a girl who is fast enough to outrun her brothers, father, and stepfather in Pittsburgh? A virgin.

@runyon27 said:

One could argue that Brown is bad person just like Rapistburger. The question here is how the franschise reacts. Pittsburgh didn't do anything other than say we dont like this, but hey what can we do he is our QB. They are not a classy franchise. Hines Ward DUI they do nothing, Roethlisberger, they do nothing. Harrison beats his girlfriend they do nothing. Now Cedric Wilson beats his girl friend, well thats it we dont stand for that crap in Pittsburgh because we are classy!! And BTW getting women drunk and coercing them to have sex with you in a bathroom is considered rape where I come from, and pretty much everywhere else too. Rape is rape dude.

Perfectly put.

@runyon27 said:

One could argue that Brown is bad person just like Rapistburger. The question here is how the franschise reacts. Pittsburgh didn't do anything other than say we dont like this, but hey what can we do he is our QB. They are not a classy franchise. Hines Ward DUI they do nothing, Roethlisberger, they do nothing. Harrison beats his girlfriend they do nothing. Now Cedric Wilson beats his girl friend, well thats it we dont stand for that crap in Pittsburgh because we are classy!! And BTW getting women drunk and coercing them to have sex with you in a bathroom is considered rape where I come from, and pretty much everywhere else too. Rape is rape dude.

ok, you admitted that Brown = Roethlisberger and said the question is how the franchise reacts.

then you do nothing to illistrate why the Steelers are "not a classy franchise" but the browns are classy to keep JB employed by the franchise up untill last year.

and it wasn't his horrible past transgressions that made them give him the boot, it was the walrus not liking him.

@king-ghoolie-lives said:

Jim Brown TWICE was not ACCUSED of rape, but ARRESTED AND HAD FORMAL RAPE CHARGES AGAINST HIM.

http://articles.latimes.com/1985-02-21/news/mn-617_1_jim-brown

IN addition to this stuff, In 1965 HE was accused and arrested for molesting and beating two women.

In 1968 his 22 yreal old GF was found beaten t a pulo and uncoinscious on her balcony. Brown was arrested but later teh girl changed her story and said she fell. Ha!

In 1978 Jim Brown BEAT THE LIVING SHIT out of a Golf Pto for the placement of a gold ball on teh course.

Now, this is FAR worse than Big Ben pulling out little ben to show around town.

Do you hypocries simply overlook Brown because he was a Browns player?

One could argue that Brown is bad person just like Rapistburger. The question here is how the franschise reacts. Pittsburgh didn't do anything other than say we dont like this, but hey what can we do he is our QB. They are not a classy franchise. Hines Ward DUI they do nothing, Roethlisberger, they do nothing. Harrison beats his girlfriend they do nothing. Now Cedric Wilson beats his girl friend, well thats it we dont stand for that crap in Pittsburgh because we are classy!! And BTW getting women drunk and coercing them to have sex with you in a bathroom is considered rape where I come from, and pretty much everywhere else too. Rape is rape dude.

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Im putting this on My signature........Love it!

@king-ghoolie-lives said:

Jim Brown TWICE was not ACCUSED of rape, but ARRESTED AND HAD FORMAL RAPE CHARGES AGAINST HIM.

http://articles.latimes.com/1985-02-21/news/mn-617_1_jim-brown

IN addition to this stuff, In 1965 HE was accused and arrested for molesting and beating two women.

In 1968 his 22 yreal old GF was found beaten t a pulo and uncoinscious on her balcony. Brown was arrested but later teh girl changed her story and said she fell. Ha!

In 1978 Jim Brown BEAT THE LIVING SHIT out of a Golf Pto for the placement of a gold ball on teh course.

Now, this is FAR worse than Big Ben pulling out little ben to show around town.

Do you hypocries simply overlook Brown because he was a Browns player?

ghoulie, don't you know logic only confuses them? especially your brand of highly intelligent logic. you just made half their heads explode scanner style.

@usfbrown said:

Exactly. Innocent people don't settle in court. Except Michael Jackson right? He was innocent...

It was thrown out of Criminal court. She then filed a civil suit for the last ditch money grab. Ben admitted to having sex with the chick but she and her attorneys were pushing for defamation of character this and defamation of that etc. His track record as far as being a hound dog isn't the best whether he's now "reformed' or not. He didn't rape this chick just like he didn't rape the other one. He slept around, picked the wrong broad with this one and paid to get it out of his hair. It wasn't "man i have to pay this chick or the REAL stuff is going to come out" it was "man i'm going to pay this chick so I can just get past it".

@harry-buffalo said:

The fact of the matter is that the woman's only option was to seek money. Because of the pressure put on her from her employers she didn't go straight to the police to report him. Since she waited so long she elapsed the time she had to press charges that would put Ben in jail, they do this cause after a certain amount of time the evidence of the crime has disappeared. After that time the only option is to sue said person for the rape and seek financial payments for the crime. Similar to how OJ was declared innocent of murder, but later found guilty when sued by the family. The fact of the matter is that if Ben did nothing, he wouldn't have paid the girl. She had to have something over Ben to make him pay.

Exactly. Innocent people don't settle in court. Except Michael Jackson right? He was innocent...

I don't know what kind of idiot would post over 500 times on a BROWNS WEBSITE if you are a Shitsburgh fan.

If you are a Native Clevelander who is a Steelers fan you should have your worthless balls cutoff and eyes gouged out. Seriously, Cleveland Steeler fans disgust me. If you are a Cleveland Steelers Fan you do not have the right to refer to the Steelers as your,our,my team. That's not your team. You are just an honorless weasel living a fairy tale.

As far as the allegations are concerned who are you to judge an alleged victim.

If a woman is sexually assaulted and decides money over justice that's her choice who the fuck are you to judge.

How about, "the lady was a prim and proper Sunday school teacher, who was reading the Bible during lunch when

butt rothlicksbooger tricked her up into his room and raped her, like he tried to do in the women's bathroom that other time,

gosh. I don't have a link for that, either.

rothlicksbooger is always framed, blah blah blah.

He should be out of football... he's a dirtbag, dirtier than Harrison and Pollymollytutu.

There are perverts everywhere sadly but the worse of the worse are the ones that abuse children. I hope there is a special place in hell for just those scums.

Zombo said:

Well they do show one thing: We all we know there are perverts and molesters in every society, but Cleveland does a lot better job of finding them and prosecuting them. I guess you can get away with a lot in Pennsylvania ... especially if you play QB.

Zombo

Or a coach.

@gafreleets said:

ok, #1 i don't believe any woman or parents of a child that claim sexual assault or rape and then accept money to be quiet about it.

sorry, no deal. if something that horrific happened to you there would be no way in hell any amount of money would make it ok.

it shows she's nothing but a gold digging ho bag that has major mental issues.

#2. don't preach to me about our organization and it's morals when the icon of your franchise (jim brown) was a woman beating rapist himself. go ahead........deny it.

#3. as i've said before..... don't bring up Ben, and how his alleged actions somehow reflect on the city of Pittsburgh, unless you feel like addressing the fact that cleveland has 500% more child rapists/rapists overall and 400% more per capita. u don't believe me........oh well, it's a fact, look it up on the goverment registered website in my sig. oh, not to mention that Ben (and his morals) is from ohio.

so lets just hush my little turdlings.

The fact of the matter is that the woman's only option was to seek money. Because of the pressure put on her from her employers she didn't go straight to the police to report him. Since she waited so long she elapsed the time she had to press charges that would put Ben in jail, they do this cause after a certain amount of time the evidence of the crime has disappeared. After that time the only option is to sue said person for the rape and seek financial payments for the crime. Similar to how OJ was declared innocent of murder, but later found guilty when sued by the family. The fact of the matter is that if Ben did nothing, he wouldn't have paid the girl. She had to have something over Ben to make him pay.