@cribbs-is-the-man said:

4-3 OLBs do not (and should not) get drafted that high. He is not a pass rushing 3-4 OLB, and he is not a rock solid MLB. Dont get me wrong, Id love to have him, not with a top 20 pick though. Id put money on him being there at 22 for sure, but I would def still hesitate to pick him at 22, not enough value in the position given our holes. Round 2, Id love to have him though. And try not to get caught up in the measurables, Kuechly is going to blow in the combine but will still get picked before Burfict and Brown. Instincts are crucial to the LB position.

You don't think a guy at 240 running at or under a 4.4 could rush the passer? If he can't now, he will learn quickly.

@clevelandbigdawg said:

Speaking of Combine, I read on twitter the other day that Alshon Jeffery ran a 4.88 Forty weighing in at 248. Not sure how long ago that was, but if that is the case, we could easily see him fall to round 2, or MAYBE even 3, but kinda doubtful given the Jerry Rice who excelled with terrible 40 times. I know that is a one time case, but Jeffery could easily slip to our round 2 pick if we want him

Sorry for kinda derailling the thread.

I dont think that Griffin will completely skip out on the combine. Most people at least show up and get their measures-Height, Hand-size, Weight, Their Health test thing, Wingspan, etc. He most likely wont throw or run, he may do the bench press, but that is pretty unlikely as well.

If that's true about Jeffery then he should praise the Lord if he gets drafted in the 3rd.

The Browns will have another excellent draft.

@calfoxwc said:

I don't believe Zach Brown will be there for the Browns at 22. I can see the Browns trading down with Miami for extra picks... and

nabbing Zach Brown at their first round pick. Would Brown, a needed outstanding lb, make more of a difference to the Browns than Richardson?

The draft can't get here soon enough.

4-3 OLBs do not (and should not) get drafted that high. He is not a pass rushing 3-4 OLB, and he is not a rock solid MLB. Dont get me wrong, Id love to have him, not with a top 20 pick though. Id put money on him being there at 22 for sure, but I would def still hesitate to pick him at 22, not enough value in the position given our holes. Round 2, Id love to have him though. And try not to get caught up in the measurables, Kuechly is going to blow in the combine but will still get picked before Burfict and Brown. Instincts are crucial to the LB position.

nabbing Zach Brown at their first round pick. Would Brown, a needed outstanding lb, make more of a difference to the Browns than Richardson?

The draft can't get here soon enough.

@nw220 said:

Word is Zach Brown is running 4.35s in workouts and he weighs 240 at OLB, pretty impressive if i dont say

Id look at him with #22, depending on who we take with 4 and if Wright/Floyd are around. Would love to take him in the 2nd round! We need to get some speed on defense, we need another OLB, and our run D sucks (all interrelated...)

we don't need that. He would be a mistake for the Browns.

@clevelandbigdawg said:

Speaking of Combine, I read on twitter the other day that Alshon Jeffery ran a 4.88 Forty weighing in at 248. Not sure how long ago that was, but if that is the case, we could easily see him fall to round 2, or MAYBE even 3, but kinda doubtful given the Jerry Rice who excelled with terrible 40 times. I know that is a one time case, but Jeffery could easily slip to our round 2 pick if we want him

Sorry for kinda derailling the thread.

I dont think that Griffin will completely skip out on the combine. Most people at least show up and get their measures-Height, Hand-size, Weight, Their Health test thing, Wingspan, etc. He most likely wont throw or run, he may do the bench press, but that is pretty unlikely as well.

I hate to say it but if Jeffrey ran that slow of a 40, I'll put $10 that Maurice Clarett or Slowbiski could beat him in a 40, not to mention 1\2 the linebackers currently in the NFL. Hell, there's a couple defensive ends that can run sub 5.0 40s.

Zombo said:

Letterman was 6'2 at the Indy combine in 1982, but he may have shrunk half an inch.

Robert Griffin is the same height as Joe Montana

They are all taller than Colt McCoy. And Letterman may have a quicker release.

Zombo

Very nice.. lol

the combine is about more than measurables...which is why most top prospects decline to throw or otherwise participate.

The only thing that matters for quarterbacks is that they measure over 6'0"

@clevelandbigdawg said:

Speaking of Combine, I read on twitter the other day that Alshon Jeffery ran a 4.88 Forty weighing in at 248. Not sure how long ago that was, but if that is the case, we could easily see him fall to round 2, or MAYBE even 3, but kinda doubtful given the Jerry Rice who excelled with terrible 40 times. I know that is a one time case, but Jeffery could easily slip to our round 2 pick if we want him

Sorry for kinda derailling the thread.

I dont think that Griffin will completely skip out on the combine. Most people at least show up and get their measures-Height, Hand-size, Weight, Their Health test thing, Wingspan, etc. He most likely wont throw or run, he may do the bench press, but that is pretty unlikely as well.

I know that Jeffrey seems to be falling like a stone in water on some of his evaluations.

I saw something Kiper and McShay did. One of them didn't even have him in his Top 5, another had him at only #5. I know some had said he could challenge Blackmon as the first WR taken. Apparently not now.

No difference to me...

Because I can't get less interested than not interested...

Well, she probably had some sort of heels on given the fact RGIII has a half inch or so on David Letterman and Letterman is listed as 6'1.5

Sorry for kinda derailling the thread.

I dont think that Griffin will completely skip out on the combine. Most people at least show up and get their measures-Height, Hand-size, Weight, Their Health test thing, Wingspan, etc. He most likely wont throw or run, he may do the bench press, but that is pretty unlikely as well.

@brownfish said:

I'm getting pretty excited to see what the boy can do. I think he will surprise in a few categories, guessing bench press and standing broad jump. Everything else from speed to quickness will be what was expected.

one thing that will disappoint will be height...everyone is talking that he is 6' 1 - 6' 2" I was watching an interview with RG3 and Stacey Dales of NFL network and was suprised to see that Stacey was taller than RG3. Ok, everyone is going to be like well she was a basketball player and is probably 6'5" or something. Well, unless she sprouted 5" since she left Oklahoma, it looks like RG3 is going to come in more at 6' - 0 then 6' 2". I'm hoping she was wearing 3" heals on her boots. but I'm probably guessing no.

If RG3 comes in at 6' 0 or under is he still worth a top 5 pick?

Well FWIW, I just checked out the Heisman Award ceremony, when he hugged & shook hands with Andrew Luck. If Luck is 6'4", Griffin is only a couple inches shorter. & yes Dales is listed in the OU program @ 6'0".

Bigger question is- will he even show up for the combine? It's getting pretty routine the very top picks skip the combine, and only show up for their college Pro Day.