@badnewsbrowns said:

Just imagine the perfect storm that was brewing, and had the Browns never moved.

Belichick,Pioli,Mangini,Jim Schwartz,Nick Saban,Kirk Ferentz,Mike Lombardi .. on and on

Then draft Ogden,R.Lewis,J.Lewis,Brady ... a super team combination of the Pats and Rats.

Ahhh - what if.

no! Don't you know the browns never moved?

@the-cysko-kid said:

Since the last time Cleveland won any significant title, two or possibly three generations of humans have been born.

Yes, indeed. That was my whole point.

Belichick,Pioli,Mangini,Jim Schwartz,Nick Saban,Kirk Ferentz,Mike Lombardi .. on and on

Then draft Ogden,R.Lewis,J.Lewis,Brady ... a super team combination of the Pats and Rats.

Ahhh - what if.

@ballpeen said:

Thanks for the effort my friend.

It is pretty pitiful when you think about it.

We aren't all that far apart in age, we can throw Ed in to the mix here as well. We've gone from teens, or close to teens, to fairly old men. It's why when people talk about about having patience, I'd like to shake them and tell them to wake up, because it's obvious to me they aren't over 35 years old.

I'd bet most only remember the pre expansion Browns as faint memories.

I am not being serious here, but damn it, I have shown friggen patience....49 years worth to be exact, and I was a middle teen when we last won, so it wasn't like I was 2 and can say i was around.....I was there as a fan.

It doesn't make me special by any means. It only means when people say what needs to be done, I can say it doesn't work. Demand wins now.

Just friggen win. Do your talking on the field. If you don't win, just shut-up.

I hear you guys loud & clear.

Sometimes I think I am "The Omen," since I was born in 1963, the year Paul Brown was fired...I didn't actually become a fan until 1970. My passion for the Browns has not faded at all, but my impatience is indeed growing.

@badnewsbrowns said:

I know how much all you Browns Boarders love Soccer.

The Force/Crunch won a couple championships in the 80's didn't they?

Fuck Off back to Norway. I said "major league" sports. Who gives a crap about minor league soccer:

The Force/Crunch won a couple championships in the 80's didn't they?

@ballpeen said:

Thanks for the effort my friend.

It is pretty pitiful when you think about it.

We aren't all that far apart in age, we can throw Ed in to the mix here as well. We've gone from teens, or close to teens, to fairly old men. It's why when people talk about about having patience, I'd like to shake them and tell them to wake up, because it's obvious to me they aren't over 35 years old.

I'd bet most only remember the pre expansion Browns as faint memories.

I am not being serious here, but damn it, I have shown friggen patience....49 years worth to be exact, and I was a middle teen when we last won, so it wasn't like I was 2 and can say i was around.....I was there as a fan.

It doesn't make me special by any means. It only means when people say what needs to be done, I can say it doesn't work. Demand wins now.

Just friggen win. Do your talking on the field. If you don't win, just shut-up.

Right Russ. I was 12 when the Browns won that title. I am now 60. It was not televised live in the Cleveland/Akron area. We had to watch it in black and white on tape delay the following Monday night.

That is how long ago it is. Could you imagine any city having a team in the Super Bowl and being told to wait until the following evening to watch the game?

Don't don't freeking preach patience to me. In fact, one way to view it is to say that these Cleveland sports team owe us 12 championships in the next few years. Fair to say?

It is pretty pitiful when you think about it.

We aren't all that far apart in age, we can throw Ed in to the mix here as well. We've gone from teens, or close to teens, to fairly old men. It's why when people talk about about having patience, I'd like to shake them and tell them to wake up, because it's obvious to me they aren't over 35 years old.

I'd bet most only remember the pre expansion Browns as faint memories.

I am not being serious here, but damn it, I have shown friggen patience....49 years worth to be exact, and I was a middle teen when we last won, so it wasn't like I was 2 and can say i was around.....I was there as a fan.

It doesn't make me special by any means. It only means when people say what needs to be done, I can say it doesn't work. Demand wins now.

Just friggen win. Do your talking on the field. If you don't win, just shut-up.