@nw220 said:

Well he was projected as a late first rounder and now people are saying he wont make it past Carolina, i can see why someone would roll the dice as someone previously mentioned his talent is rare and expectionally for a guy his size...I wouldnt take him in the top 10 but if we didnt have Taylor or Rubin and he was there at 22 you bet your ass i would draft him....

Even though he completely disappears on a lot of game tape? He'll need a very strong coach IMO.

Homotron said:

I'll laugh hysterically if he goes that high. His game tape does not show what he did at the combine. It shows in spurts and when you make a selection inside the top 10 I'd say you EXPECT that player to start immediately. Poe isn't ready to start immediately.

Yea its predictions such as those (wont make it past Carolina at that make me wanna slap McShay/Mel Kiper in the face. They over analyze the combine because its easy to do (not watching film and looking at raw numbers), and because the media loves the combine.. They continually contradict themselves and just make the obvious observations. I respect Heckert a ton for the Haden pick (whether it works out or not) because he doesnt cave to outside pressure, I really like that he sticks to what he believes in and what he sees on film..

@nw220 said:

Word is he wont make it past Carolina at number 8

I'll laugh hysterically if he goes that high. His game tape does not show what he did at the combine. It shows in spurts and when you make a selection inside the top 10 I'd say you EXPECT that player to start immediately. Poe isn't ready to start immediately.

Can he throw?

@the-gipper said:

OK, but is he just another workout wonder? Or actually a good football player?

Workout wonder. There is a lot of game tape that shows in very clear fashion he isn't applying his obvious gifts on the field. I'll post a link from the Arkansas State game where he's on the ground more than he's standing or just getting consumed. Could he be good? Sure with the right coach but I don't think he deserves to be inside the top 15 like some are projecting and by some I mean the media. I'm not so sure he deserves to be in the first round.

1:32 into the clip---Poe gets blocked one on one by a RB

2:02 into the clip---Poe get's blocked one on one by a RB

2:53 into the clip---Poe gets blocked one on one by the RG

3:50 into the clip---Poe gets blocked one on one by the RT

4:23 into the clip---Poe gets taken completely out of the play while at DT in a 4-3 on a running play right through the middle

5:36 into the clip---Poe gets pancaked by the RG

6:26 into the clip---A State runs a trap/cross block right through Poe's gap and Poe takes himself out of the play by going after a back who didnt even have the ball

7:55 into the clip---Poe gets pancaked by the RG

9:43 into the clip---Poe gets stood up because he is too high.

10:26 into the clip---Head down, gets cut and is completely out of the run play.

12:03 into the clip--Poe gets blocked one on one by the RT

EDIT: He just takes A LOT of plays off. If he's Coachable he has the tool to be elite but he's got some serious work to do. He'd have to end up with a team that has a strong veteran presence and coaches that will extract every last ounce out of him to show what he's capable of on the field.

@sisky-fringo said:

that's because the mocks you viewed were most likely pre-Combine.

not to speak for TCPO, but i believe he based that upon the fact Poe's measurables at the Combine were off the charts.

350lbs and runs a 4.87 40?????

and that burst?????

and 44 225# reps?!?!?!?! that's the most i've ever seen.

obviously, his #'s are stellar.

again, that's because the mocks you viewed were most likely pre-Combine.

the pundits cover a lot of ground speculating, but a significantly stellar Combine performance from Poe was apparently quite unexpected and difficult to forecast...otherwise he would have been projected higher by them. .

OK, but is he just another workout wonder? Or actually a good football player?

@the-gipper said:

I guess I haven't seen this guy name all that high up in the mock drafts.

that's because the mocks you viewed were most likely pre-Combine.

How do you figure that the Browns would have to trade up for him.

not to speak for TCPO, but i believe he based that upon the fact Poe's measurables at the Combine were off the charts.

350lbs and runs a 4.87 40?????

and that burst?????

and 44 225# reps?!?!?!?! that's the most i've ever seen.

obviously, his #'s are stellar.

Maybe I need to go back and check the recent Mocks, but I never saw his name on there.

again, that's because the mocks you viewed were most likely pre-Combine.

the pundits cover a lot of ground speculating, but a significantly stellar Combine performance from Poe was apparently quite unexpected and difficult to forecast...otherwise he would have been projected higher by them. .

@cribbs-is-the-man said:

Impressive, but would be a luxury pick for us (with Taylor and Rubin), he is more suited for a 3-4 (but with that kind of athleticism can play anything probably), and we'd likely have to trade up from 22 to get him... someone will get an athletic big man though..

I guess I haven't seen this guy name all that high up in the mock drafts. How do you figure that the Browns would have to trade up for him.

Maybe I need to go back and check the recent Mocks, but I never saw his name on there.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

6'3 1/2

346 lbs.

44 reps on 225 bench

4.87 40 yard dash. Even better, he had a 1.7 10 yard split, which means he EXPLODES off the ball.

Impressive, but would be a luxury pick for us (with Taylor and Rubin), he is more suited for a 3-4 (but with that kind of athleticism can play anything probably), and we'd likely have to trade up from 22 to get him... someone will get an athletic big man though..