I just keep thinking the Browns might go after Manningham and maybe make a push for Harry Douglas (dude is fast as hell).

The only problem is Colt McCoy using a deep threat with his noodle arm.

It isn't worth giving up as much as the Rams want to move up 2 spots for a team that needs about 6-7 players to even be competitive.

Blackmon is this year best receiver, but he isn't as good as the first two receivers selected last year.

Haden and Claiborne would give us a solid corner tandem...as good as it gets really.

The negative is both will be stars and it will be hard to keep them both after this first contract cycle, but there is 2 years of separation, so it isn't impossible.

if we pick claiborne at our 4 spot then wr has to be 22 or a DE or a LB or............

Zombo said:

We haven't thought about it yet.

Zombo

:lol: Damn Z, you're funny bro! :lol:

@tampabaybucs said:

I just hope you dont fuck us like you did when you took Joe Thomas.

We ended up with Gaines Adams and everyone knows that story.

Actually, no I don't know the full story. I know he died, but I don't know what happened.

And, if what I am hearing is correct, if the Browns were to trade down with you one spot, we should at no less ask for your 2d round pick in this year's draft to do so, fair to say?

@tampabaybucs said:

I just hope you dont fuck us like you did when you took Joe Thomas.

We ended up with Gaines Adams and everyone knows that story.

He wasn't horrible. Just not 4th pick good.

We ended up with Gaines Adams and everyone knows that story.

@tampabaybucs said:

Hey Browns fans!

Its a given that Luck and RG3 goes 1 and 2.

But if you dont trade up for RG3 who do you think the Browns will pick if they stay put at #4?

Do you think theres any chance they pick Claiborne to pair up with Haden?

As a bucs fan that would crush me.. I hope hes there at 5.

Been wondering about this for a few days and whos better to ask than the Browns fans themself?

I would love to have Claiborne, but our biggest need is our putrid offense. Draft Blackmon and sign Finnegan or Carlos Rogers. Then go and sign Colston, there is no way they can keep him and Brees. Or sign Vincent Jackson.

At that point, I'd start looking at the skill guys... Richardson (not my favorite choice), and you have to look at Blackmon should he run his 40 in under a half hour.

But if I could get out of #4, I'd look to get out of #5 as well. Get down into the teens. Pick up another second from someone who just has to have Riley Reiff or Trent Richardson. Then start my draft back there.

Take a Nick Perry somewhere in the teens. Maybe look WR at #22. Although that may be a little high. The value/cost ratio doesn't really kick in on this year's crop of wideouts until you get to about #35.

That said if they want to reach a little for Michael Floyd or Stephen Hill, I wouldn't call it a bad move. Although, the value is there, I think the Browns would lose the battle for public opinion if they went defense twice in Round 1 - even though CB may be the value at #22. If Kirkpatrick is there, he probably should be the pick. But I don't think it would be a great move politically speaking. If I'm the GM, I'd rather reach a bit for an offensive playmaker than get another CB, even if he's the best player available.

The Browns need to come out of this draft with one legitimate offensive skill player - someone who is a match-up problem for other teams. And if they can't make the deal for 2, they're going to have to do something. I don't know. If they finish Day 1 with Nick Perry and Stephen Hill/Michael Floyd, I guess they'll be marginally better for the effort.

-jj