I'm pissed LeBron took that nickname away from me.

@badnewsbrowns said:

Yeah you're right if we'd of kept Z,Shaq,Mo,Delonte we'd of been pretty good.

We would have been better than we were, maybe even "pretty good" for a year.....but, the fact is after LeMorceau de merde left, it behooved the Cavs to go ahead and blow things up by getting rid of the aging, the unstable and the unreliable and start completely over. the only guy we "lost" was the guy we kept. We lost Varajao to injury, but obviously he has value to a much younger team.

@the-gipper said:

Actually, that is not true. Clearly you were not paying attention.

They lost practically their entire team, not just LeBron. From one season to the next they lost: LeBron, Ilgauskas, Shaq, Mo Williams, Delonte West, and Varajao went out with an injury.

Lets see, that is both centers, point guard, small forward/shooting guard (whateve LBJ was), power forward, sixth man.

The ONLY position they kept was Antawn Jamison.

Yeah you're right if we'd of kept Z,Shaq,Mo,Delonte we'd of been pretty good.

@badnewsbrowns said:

Anyone who says the Cavs are better off without Lebron is clearly thinking with their hearts and not their heads.

They went from the best record to the worst losing one guy. No more playoffs,no more sellout crowds, no more TNT, huge hit to Downtown businesses.

Actually, that is not true. Clearly you were not paying attention.

They lost practically their entire team, not just LeBron. From one season to the next they lost: LeBron, Ilgauskas, Shaq, Mo Williams, Delonte West, and Varajao went out with an injury.

Lets see, that is both centers, point guard, small forward/shooting guard (whateve LBJ was), power forward, sixth man.

The ONLY position they kept was Antawn Jamison.

@mld-woody said:

You think the Cavs are better off without Lebron?

I realize a lot of u on here probably went into full rant mode when he left. Followed by hating everything he'll ever do and loving the owner for that stupid letter, etc

But how can you really say the Cavs are better off without him?

Anyone who says the Cavs are better off without Lebron is clearly thinking with their hearts and not their heads.

They went from the best record to the worst losing one guy. No more playoffs,no more sellout crowds, no more TNT, huge hit to Downtown businesses.

@the-gipper said:

Perhaps in this sense: now there is hope for the future, and not just faith in one guy who repeatedly failed when it counted most...not only for us but for his new team.

As supremely talented as he is....and he is...he continually became minimized at just the times where you thought he should have been maximized.

Its why he went to Miami to play second fiddle to Dwayne Wade. So that he would have someone else that he could turn to to play the Big Kahuna, because his psyche was not up to the task.

The Cavs now seem to have a potential new Big Kahuna who might not shrink when the brightest of lights are turned on. We shall see. They need more around this guy just as they needed more around LeBron when he first got here.

Thank you,Sir. Well put.

@mld-woody said:

You think the Cavs are better off without Lebron?

I realize a lot of u on here probably went into full rant mode when he left. Followed by hating everything he'll ever do and loving the owner for that stupid letter, etc

But how can you really say the Cavs are better off without him?

Yes

Kyrie Irving

Trsitian Thompson

2012 Draft Pick

Jamison gone

Andy Gee Sessions Potiential Trade

Free Agency this year and next

When Lebron was here it was, Lebron, Lebron, Lebron, Lebron, Lebron, Lebron.. Hey we need another piece we gotta make it work Lebron can u extend so we get you help? Lebron Lebron Lebron LEBRON LEBRON---- Takes jersey off walks off naked and embarasses the city, so yea way better fuck him.

@mld-woody said:

You think the Cavs are better off without Lebron?

I realize a lot of u on here probably went into full rant mode when he left. Followed by hating everything he'll ever do and loving the owner for that stupid letter, etc

But how can you really say the Cavs are better off without him?

Perhaps in this sense: now there is hope for the future, and not just faith in one guy who repeatedly failed when it counted most...not only for us but for his new team.

As supremely talented as he is....and he is...he continually became minimized at just the times where you thought he should have been maximized.

Its why he went to Miami to play second fiddle to Dwayne Wade. So that he would have someone else that he could turn to to play the Big Kahuna, because his psyche was not up to the task.

The Cavs now seem to have a potential new Big Kahuna who might not shrink when the brightest of lights are turned on. We shall see. They need more around this guy just as they needed more around LeBron when he first got here.

I realize a lot of u on here probably went into full rant mode when he left. Followed by hating everything he'll ever do and loving the owner for that stupid letter, etc

But how can you really say the Cavs are better off without him?

@canton-mike said:

What a wonderful dream that is!

I don't want either of them back in Cleveland...EVER!!!

Mike

in LBJ...If he went on tv and did a full apology..I might consider it...but...lets not really bother....Both franchises are better off without them.

@poeticg said:

We should have kept Braylon, K2 and Lawrence Vickers.

we sucked while they were here...we sucked after they left.

@canton-mike said:

I don't want either of them back in Cleveland...EVER!!!

Yup... +1 for da Gipper, but I'd like to see LeBron in a Browns uni...

BE can go back to Michigan...

@wj-brownfan said:

Which is why he would be a good fit again, but at DE

Not feelin him as a 255# DE even in a 4-3...

Wimbley was never a problem, has very good skills and was not put in the best position to succeed, as so many talented Browns players of yester-year...

Which is why he would be a good fit again, but at DE

Braylon was a headache and blew it on the field too often. Not a good move for him to come back...

K2 was obviously a off-field problem, but could have been kept if Mangini didnt feel like he had to clean house...

Didn't really think my suggestion was way off....no more than many threads I read here.

@mld-woody said:

Yes. I agree.

I am completely unbiased too. Just ask the Edwards jersey in my closet.

it would be better used wiping shit off you in the bathroom

@the-gipper said:

Nah, let him catch on with Miami. That way he can get into a fight with LeBron James and they can take each other out.

What a wonderful dream that is!

I don't want either of them back in Cleveland...EVER!!!

Mike