@cdl15 said:

quinn to the cheifs. one handoff to hillis from him would be epic

It is interesting. I always thought Quinn was a savage pick and not a Crennell guy. So, Im surprised to see him go to KC and RAC. But I cant hate on them. I wish them well,except when they play the Browns. Anyone else thinks with the way KC might be a much much better team this year and could be a dark horse? Eric Winston is a huge pickup.

All he talked about pre-combine was doing more bench reps than any RB has ever done... and then he didn't show.

He looks overdeveloped now and a candidate for a muscle pull a week, as if there weren't enough injury concerns around him.

Bottom line: He's off my board.

@cdl15 said:

kinda being a little hard on ummm "oobi goobi." kinda funny when he started to get into groove hillis got cured of cancer or whatever.... and he was the only rb that could stay healthy...

Maybe. He's certainly not feature back material, but he is a keeper.

@poeticg said:

There is a very BIG difference between Hillis and Richardson. Hillis was drafted as a FB. Richardson is an ELITE NFL RUNNINGBACK PROSPECT! Hillis was great in 2010 but his true colors showed this last season and him picking KC over us tells all. Hillis was never that fast, he was big and powerful and deceptively elusive but not on Trent Richardson's level... not even close.

Hillis was got for a Brady Quinn pick. When healthy that guy could grind out a few yards. Richardson had a knee surgery unlike Hillis. Richardson would cost us a 1st round draft pick unlike Hillis. And Hillis for the cost of 1 year 3 mill is a bargain deal. Also Hillis did show his true colors. When KC made him an offer - His agent called the Browns to see if they would atleast match it. And they did not even make an offer, although they said in the public that they would take Hillis at the right price. Yup, it was Hillis who showed his colors alright.

@hoorta said:

Get back to me after this year. If he only runs for 500 yards the Chiefs overpaid him.

We may (in your words) have flushed some crap- however, we're now likely going to have to use a draft pick to re-load the commode. Hardesty's a crip, Oobi-goobi is a practice squad player and Brandon Jackson (who was signed last year as a third down back) is coming off of a toe owie. Have a couple of other guys on the roster as RBs that you probably never heard of- so let's hear it for Armond Smith! the next Emmitt Smith!!!!

@the-gipper said:

You are becoming a Peggy Lee poster, Ghoolie. Is that all there is? Is that all there is to your commententary?

OK, but now, who are the Browns going to have to run the ball?

If you don't have an answer, then keep on dancing

"Let's bring out the Booze and have a ball." That's my theory.

I have always liked Peggy Lee.

@poeticg said:

You spend the number 4 overall pick on a back that is FAST and STRONG. You spend that pick with a smile knowing that you're getting an everydown back that can do it ALL. He's a player that teams will have to be accountable for each and every game. He's all about team and doesn't have a diva or me-first personality... His name is Trent Richardson, and he's a beast, In fact his nickname is "The Beast in the Hoodie"... nice. I like him better than Hillis already.

@loyalty said:

The more I look at it, there really are quite a few options at HB in the draft for later rounds.

At this point I wonder what type of RB they are wanting. Speed or Size?... There aren't a lot of 'big' RBs in the draft...

There is a lot of potential speed though.

You spend the number 4 overall pick on a back that is FAST and STRONG. You spend that pick with a smile knowing that you're getting an everydown back that can do it ALL. He's a player that teams will have to be accountable for each and every game. He's all about team and doesn't have a diva or me-first personality... His name is Trent Richardson, and he's a beast, In fact his nickname is "The Beast in the Hoodie"... nice. I like him better than Hillis already.

@typicalbrowns said:

no matter how many boneheads run the team, how many good players we throw away, no matter how many games we lose, no matter how many facepalms i commit while watching them on sunday

i still fuckin love the browns. i must be crazy

+1

I think we all are.

I think they very well may be. To them it seems it is all about their "system" their "process". They think that just because they have had some success in the past with it in Green Bay and Seattle that they merely need to put their system in place and it will eventually succeed.

Well, maybe they are right. But they need to prove it.

This is a "what have you done lately" league. And lately they have done diddley.

And, fyi, it is only one short syllable from arrogance to ignorance.

1. my hillis jersey will now compliment my winslow,frye, edwards, and droughns one in collecting dust.

2. the media bullshit surrounding Hillis was the Brown's fault. They never clarified anything with ppl and kept their mouths shut even when answers (actual answers) would've helped them.

3. a 1 year, 3 million dollar contract> the browns offer? you are pathetic cleveland. the one fuckin dude who, even w injuries and media problems, did more for the offense than the fuckin head coach last year

4. cant wait to watch hillis demolish our run d this year. why THE FUCK would u not keep a guy like this?

5. it seems the front office pays no attention to the record, or tallying of wins and losses for the team, and also pays no attention to who helps put points up and who doesnt

6. is it just me or is holmgren and his staff TRULY this arrogant? like they dont need players that produce and they arent "worthy" of being in Cleveland? are u kidding me?

7. my thoughts are running together angrily so ive lost track of what i was saying

8. when shit like this happens, i must say, it tests our faith as fans. i LOVE the browns, as a history, team, franchise, fanbase, joke of the AFC north, underdog, and now the Hillis-less team they are. Hillis was one of my favorite athletes, and i remember thinking "if the browns trade away him, i might just stop following CLE", but guess what......Im here, and I suprisingly dont feel any different about the team.

no matter how many boneheads run the team, how many good players we throw away, no matter how many games we lose, no matter how many facepalms i commit while watching them on sunday

i still fuckin love the browns. i must be crazy

Here's my take, Ed. In short, addition by subtraction. His actions off the field and his fumbles on the field punched his ticket. If the organization believes he didn't give his best effort, they had to remove him from the team. If - for nothing else - to maintain respect and credibility from the players and coaching staff.

I remember Leroy Hord and he ain't no Leroy Hord.

>>This team is on an endless treadmill.>>

COMMON GROUND!!!!!!

@kamac19 said:

I do hope Armond Smith gets another good shot in camp, and has worked his fumbles out his system, as the small glimpse I saw of him he has that speed we need to add into the backfield.

im eager to see him after a year practicing as well.

@hoorta said:

Get back to me after this year. If he only runs for 500 yards the Chiefs overpaid him.

We may (in your words) have flushed some crap- however, we're now likely going to have to use a draft pick to re-load the commode. Hardesty's a crip, Oobi-goobi is a practice squad player and Brandon Jackson (who was signed last year as a third down back) is coming off of a toe owie. Have a couple of other guys on the roster as RBs that you probably never heard of- so let's hear it for Armond Smith! the next Emmitt Smith!!!!

I do hope Armond Smith gets another good shot in camp, and has worked his fumbles out his system, as the small glimpse I saw of him he has that speed we need to add into the backfield.

3 teams in 4 years is nothing to be proud of, the good ones that last, don't usually see that kind of rotation, unless they're baggage is too much - T.O., Randy Moss, etc.

I could easily see him looking for a home again in 2013 or 2014 or his career being done.

@king-ghoolie-lives said:

Hillis is shit. We just took a good shit.

Bravo, Browns.

Get back to me after this year. If he only runs for 500 yards the Chiefs overpaid him.

We may (in your words) have flushed some crap- however, we're now likely going to have to use a draft pick to re-load the commode. Hardesty's a crip, Oobi-goobi is a practice squad player and Brandon Jackson (who was signed last year as a third down back) is coming off of a toe owie. Have a couple of other guys on the roster as RBs that you probably never heard of- so let's hear it for Armond Smith! the next Emmitt Smith!!!!

@king-ghoolie-lives said:

Hillis is shit. We just took a good shit.

Bravo, Browns.

You are becoming a Peggy Lee poster, Ghoolie. Is that all there is? Is that all there is to your commententary?

OK, but now, who are the Browns going to have to run the ball?

If you don't have an answer, then keep on dancing

At this point I wonder what type of RB they are wanting. Speed or Size?... There aren't a lot of 'big' RBs in the draft...

There is a lot of potential speed though.