Masters said:

I assume they are still bitter that he might have blown the whistle on their little scheme and made BB start playing honestly (I'll bet they're still cheating). It sure does explain why Weiss and Crennel went on to suck giant dong.

I seem to recall it being stated that no one KNOWS who blew the whistle, but they treat it like fact.

Just like the 'fact' Mangini loves Favre and wants to have his love-child.

@lemosley01 said:

What is it about our board that attracts the weirdos?

I'll at least give Lum credit that he's on the board for DA's team slurping on him and bashing Quinn. The idea of cheat fans, I mean Pats fans, have to follow around a dude who was on the Pats coaching staff almost 4 years ago is just messed up.

Masters said:

It's like Lumbergh's love affair with Brady Quinn.

What is it about our board that attracts the weirdos?

@lemosley01 said:

I was aware of the story about his son, but hadn't heard the entire thing.

I can say he was a victim of an owner and GM apparently trying to put asses into the seats for the new stadium. You act like he was completely to blame - looking from the outside in, he wasn't.

Yeah, Manging was the mastermind behind the 140million dollary spending-spree, just like Romeo Crennel spent all the money of FAs for Cleveland.

If all you're here to do is 'educate' us about how the coach sucks, go the xxxx away.

The sad part is you know this dude was likely on a Jets board for the last 3 years talking trash about Mangini too. Some people just can't move on.

@joesixpat said:

Are you actually thinking you've impressed your fellow football fans with your ability to quote Jim Carey movies that target pre-pubescent teens?

Please - attempt to mock me some more!

I think I've mocked you plenty since it made you google it to even get it. Though some how I think you still missed the point.

@joesixpat said:

Later in the season, when Mangini was shocked to discover that Favre was prone to making INTs, he was a little less chummy with Brett, but if you're assessing Mangini's personnel decision making abilities, I'd say this is a big one.

If Favre isn't injured, he doesn't go 1TD/7ints. You act like his implosion was imminent - it really wasn't until he got injured. I'm sure Mangini was smart enough to know he is prone to turnovers (he'd seen it up to that point as it was). There is more to that story than you know, despite the fact you think you 'know it all'.

I was aware of the story about his son, but hadn't heard the entire thing.

I can say he was a victim of an owner and GM apparently trying to put asses into the seats for the new stadium. You act like he was completely to blame - looking from the outside in, he wasn't.

Yeah, Manging was the mastermind behind the 140million dollary spending-spree, just like Romeo Crennel spent all the money of FAs for Cleveland.

If all you're here to do is 'educate' us about how the coach sucks, go the xxxx away.

mz. said:

I googled Ray Finkle and Dan Marino.

Are you actually thinking you've impressed your fellow football fans with your ability to quote Jim Carey movies that target pre-pubescent teens?

Please - attempt to mock me some more!

@joesixpat said:

Just this one? Because there are so many others sadly going unclaimed...

Masters said:

Your like Ray Finkle w/ his obsession with Marino. Obsess much?

OK - I'll admit ignorance on this one. I have no idea who Ray Finkle is. Take a bow because you've demonstrated your command of football knowledge on that one.

@joesixpat said:

Whether other experts agreed or disagreed with Favre isn't really the point either.

There's a lot of fans here who don't seem to know that Mangini was a BIG supporter of bringing in Favre and are actually trying to convince themselves that he was OPPOSED to bringing him in.

You might want to correct them in the future so I won't have to.

Shall I point out the # of threads you have started about Mangini on this board in the past 3 days?

Your like Ray Finkle w/ his obsession with Marino. Obsess much?

Sivlerback DPOY said:

Thank you, Mr.Obvious can't slip anything past you,can we?

Sivlerback DPOY said:

Another pimpledick to join the trolls. One more and they can have a circle jerk.

Sivlerback DPOY said:

Hey Peaches, can you remind us again how much the Stillers dominated the NFL prior to 1972 and Clevelander Chuck Noll/ Kent State product Jackie Lambert?

Thanks

Zombo said:

Although, I do like the fact that, all of the sudden, the Raiders, Pats and Jets all seem to hate us. Maybe we can win the AFC next year and piss the rest of them off too.

Mangini seems like some sort of nerd magnet though.

Zombo

I will help you understand. The Browns play in the NFL. Every team in the NFL try to win the Super Bowl every year. The Steelers won this 5 times. They have a good chance at winning it a 6th time. Hence "Joe SIX Pack". Just incase you are wondering, the Browns never even made it to a super Bowl.

Zombo said:

Although, I do like the fact that, all of the sudden, the Raiders, Pats and Jets all seem to hate us. Maybe we can win the AFC next year and piss the rest of them off too.

Mangini seems like some sort of nerd magnet though.

Zombo

It's the Mangina nickname.

It gets these guys? all confused even more about their sexuality.

@joesixpat said:

Whether other experts agreed or disagreed with Favre isn't really the point either.

There's a lot of fans here who don't seem to know that Mangini was a BIG supporter of bringing in Favre and are actually trying to convince themselves that he was OPPOSED to bringing him in.

You might want to correct them in the future so I won't have to.

Why don't you move out of your mama's basement and get a life...............................loser

Whether other experts agreed or disagreed with Favre isn't really the point either.

There's a lot of fans here who don't seem to know that Mangini was a BIG supporter of bringing in Favre and are actually trying to convince themselves that he was OPPOSED to bringing him in.

You might want to correct them in the future so I won't have to.

You're afully obsesed with Mangini.

Hindsight is always 20/20. I am sure GB didn't envision becoming a sub .500 team after trading Brett either.

Masters said:

Read the article and you'll see that Mangini stated very clearly that he wanted Favre because he thought he'd be an important addition to the team that season, and important to Mangini's own "football life".

Later in the season, when Mangini was shocked to discover that Favre was prone to making INTs, he was a little less chummy with Brett, but if you're assessing Mangini's personnel decision making abilities, I'd say this is a big one.

Winning seasons in 2 of your 3 seasons as a first time HC ain't bad, no matter how you slice it. Including beating the Patriots twice in their own stadium.

@lemosley01 said:

...which might be what you would expect someone coming off a defacto 8-8 season who's trying to get another job to say.

Unfortunately most you have seemed to conveniently overlooked the fact that Mangini promised Favre that if he came to the Jets he would name his son in Favre's honor.

Don't believe it? Ask Zack Brett Mangini what he thinks.

....when the Jets were recruiting the NFL's career leader in touchdown throws, Mangini made the middle name a negotiating chip.

"I explained that history and explained that we were pregnant with our third child," Mangini said. "I really believed that he could be an instrumental part in another good year and an important part of my football life and I would commit to Zack Brett Mangini at that point. That was part of our terms, and we stuck with it."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3636994

I'm not telling you guys anything you didn't know am I? I'm sure you guys have mentioned that fact multiple times and researched your new head coach and know he was a big proponent of bringing Favre in - after all, this is the guy you want having big input in personnel decisions.

You have to expect that at the very least Lerner who made the hire knows this and is very happy with that sort of decision that Mangini made.

Or were you guys thinking Mangini makes a habit of naming his children after players who he's completely opposed to bringing in?

I'm not expecting you guys to thrown Mangini under the bus this fast - he's your head coach now like it or not. But this revisionist history to convince yourself he's a victim of a $140 million spending spree (which you believe he also had no input into) and a QB he never wanted is kind of pathetic.

I think that is what you were saying?...

If the browns were healthy this past year they could have hit 8-8 ...fully healthy next year?...9-7 ? we shall see...

come on JOE J AND TUCKER!!!!!