@kerrigan91 said:

Technically, he is "here" for me

But FWIW, I'm not opening a vein for Eddie Royal.

Oh, yes, you are a Skins fan. I overlooked that. I think you should open a vein just for that reason alone!

@the-gipper said:

OK, but, again, I still am not going to open a vein because he is not here. Are you?

Technically, he is "here" for me

But FWIW, I'm not opening a vein for Eddie Royal.

@the-gipper said:

OK, then, riddle me this:

What 7 letter word become longer when one of the letters is removed?

...Lounger? 🥷

@kerrigan91 said:

Pierre Garcon set (or matched, in the case of TDs) career highs in every statistical category a receiver can have with Curtis Painter and Kerry Collins throwing him the ball.

OK, but, again, I still am not going to open a vein because he is not here. Are you?

@halfsane said:

I already riddled you that

OK, then, riddle me this:

What 7 letter word become longer when one of the letters is removed?

@the-gipper said:

Sorry, but if Josh Morgan and Pierre Garcon didn't have Payton Manning throwing to them I doubt that any other team may have even wanted them on their rosters.

Pierre Garcon set (or matched, in the case of TDs) career highs in every statistical category a receiver can have with Curtis Painter and Kerry Collins throwing him the ball.

@the-gipper said:

Riddle me this: In what way is the Browns pattern of behavior in signing FAs any different than the Steelers or Ravens?

I don't recall seeing them sign any really big names. Perhaps the only name that comes to mind is Anquon Boldin.

I already riddled you that

@the-gipper said:

Riddle me this: In what way is the Browns pattern of behavior in signing FAs any different than the Steelers or Ravens?

I don't recall seeing them sign any really big names. Perhaps the only name that comes to mind is Anquon Boldin.

I think that's his point.

@halfsane said:

Who would want to come here? We don't need to over pay anybody.

Build it through the draft, win some games and they will come.

The big boys don't make big free agency splashes, we are finally aspiring to be on that level, but it takes some time to install a culture and continuous way of thinking and playing. Our foundation was shit and it is improving. If we abandon the plan now it will still be shit for the next coach/GM/President. It sucks, but let this play out and the payoff will be there. In Holmgren I trust motherfuckers !

Riddle me this: In what way is the Browns pattern of behavior in signing FAs any different than the Steelers or Ravens?

I don't recall seeing them sign any really big names. Perhaps the only name that comes to mind is Anquon Boldin.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Josh Morgan had Alex Smith throwing to him, the antithesis of Peyton Manning.

My point is that I am not going to commit corporal mortification because we missed out on signing Josh Morgan.

Build it through the draft, win some games and they will come.

The big boys don't make big free agency splashes, we are finally aspiring to be on that level, but it takes some time to install a culture and continuous way of thinking and playing. Our foundation was shit and it is improving. If we abandon the plan now it will still be shit for the next coach/GM/President. It sucks, but let this play out and the payoff will be there. In Holmgren I trust motherfuckers !

@the-gipper said:

Sorry, but if Josh Morgan and Pierre Garcon didn't have Payton Manning throwing to them I doubt that any other team may have even wanted them on their rosters.

What does Ghoolie say about "dime a dozen" offensive linemen? Well there are dime a dozen WRs as well, and these were a couple of them.

...the Browns need a big upgrade at WR, but I don't think these guys would have been an upgrade at all from what we already have.

Josh Morgan had Alex Smith throwing to him, the antithesis of Peyton Manning.

What does Ghoolie say about "dime a dozen" offensive linemen? Well there are dime a dozen WRs as well, and these were a couple of them.

...the Browns need a big upgrade at WR, but I don't think these guys would have been an upgrade at all from what we already have.

We never had a shot at signing them.

@4browns said:

Rumor is that Holmgren is calling a press conference later today to complain that "I’m not sure anything we offered would have been good enough," for Garcon and Morgan. Also, there is "a very close relationship between the people getting the deal done and the people who offered."

Morgan DID go to Virginia Tech...