@king-ghoolie-lives said:

I say draft him and them let him get the shit kicked out of him by the idiotic dawg pound his crucial penalty committing Father created.

Seriously, he blows, The kid is a midget and afraid to hit.

Those traits didn't stop Deion Sanders from making the HOF. If he can cover receivers like Deion then it won't matter.

I find it really funny how NO stepped out and said anything negative about the kid until his stock started to drop because of offseason workouts. What I REALLY can't believe is how some people still think Burfict would be a great pick in the 4th round but think Minnifield is a bad one in the 3rd/4th.

@tour2ma said:

Apples and oranges... and apples...

I was fully in Clay Jr.'s camp. IMO we eff'd up big-time passing on one of the finest examples of HGH use in recent memory for our 3-4. However, we corrected that mistake by going to the 4-3...

Casey? Not so much. Closer to Chase than Jr....

And WhoTF wants a DB named "Chase"? Terrible choice...

Better that than "Lose".

@tour2ma said:

CB's Deep? A mere three to four players deep by most accounts...

Take a look at this list: http://www.football.draft-hub.com/players?position=CB

Guys like Hayward, Hosley, T. Johnson, Steed, Bentley, J. Robinson and a few others all have great potential in the 2nd-5th range. Deep class.

@tour2ma said:

CB's Deep? A mere three to four players deep by most accounts...

It is actually deep, just because everyone one of them isn't considered a 1st and 2nd round pick doesn't mean they are not good. Honestly I don't see a huge drop off until after Minnefield.

@clevelandbigdawg said:

Yeah, I'm so glad we didn't take Clay Matthews or Casey Matthews.

Apples and oranges... and apples...

I was fully in Clay Jr.'s camp. IMO we eff'd up big-time passing on one of the finest examples of HGH use in recent memory for our 3-4. However, we corrected that mistake by going to the 4-3...

Casey? Not so much. Closer to Chase than Jr....

And WhoTF wants a DB named "Chase"? Terrible choice...

@ballpeen said:

Drafting a guy because Pops played for the Browns is a bad idea.

I don't think the kid is that good.

Yeah, I'm so glad we didn't take Clay Matthews or Casey Matthews.

First, let me say that i've never seen Chase play and so i have no idea whether we should draft him (or whether anyone should draft him). But his papa was something special. i've said it many times here before- Frank was the best CB that i've ever seen play- period. He covered like glue. Also, he was the best tackler on the team. He never missed a tackle. He was a student of the game and seemed to enjoy teaching younger players during the game (without calling them out or embarassing them). i always thought he would end up being a coach. He was a total class act.

i hope Chase has a good career with somebody. i want to cheer for the guy, so i hope he ends up outside of our division.

@tour2ma said:

3rd is too early for Chase, IMO.

After the 3 or 4, 1st/2nd round-worthy CB's in this draft the fall off is pretty sharp. I see the next "wave" starting late 4th or early 5th.

EDIT: On the other hand Aaron Craft might make a helluva DB...

Go Buckeyes...

Doubt it.

After the 3 or 4, 1st/2nd round-worthy CB's in this draft the fall off is pretty sharp. I see the next "wave" starting late 4th or early 5th.

EDIT: On the other hand Aaron Craft might make a helluva DB...

Go Buckeyes...

Haden, Brown, Patterson, Skrine and Minnifield... solid group there. There is no way Minnifield could be any worse than McDonald was, maybe more of an Eric Wright type CB.

@tour2ma said:

Agree... video was mostly positive, but all the positives were built upon quickness.

But it's his size... He's small and plays small.

Daddy was small but played big.

He ain't his Daddy...

So get him in the 3rd or the 4th. Just looking at some of the guys projected ahead and behind him, he is the best us or any team is going to get at that point in the draft at CB.

But it's his size... He's small and plays small.

Daddy was small but played big.

He ain't his Daddy...

@harry-buffalo said:

I don't know what your talking about. I saw a small guy do get press man to man on a guy who runs a 4.36 40. You mean he didn't knock down the jump ball thrown to a 6'4 WR that also has a 39 vert. NO WAY! The guy is short but Haden isn't a giant either.

Oh and on that Helicopter play he dove for the tackle and got smashed by his own LB who completely wiffed on his own tackle, so if I get anything from that play it's 9 sucks for not getting the tackle in the backfield and don't draft #52 LB cause he could hit the broad side of a barn.

Yea, pretty much everything on that video was a positive play....so I too don't know what you are talking about. Of course, that is a highlight reel. They aren't probably showing him getting burned.

The bottom line is, the Browns need a CB. If they don't go for Claiborne at #4, they may wait until round 3-4....and if Minniefield, who has been touted as possible first round talent once upon a time is that in the 3rd-4th round, he may be worth looking at.

@brownfish said:

Have you actually watched his games...he is terrible...constantly getting beaten up...he can not tackle. I wish i could find the game on youtube where he comes around to tackle the running back in the backfield and almost dies...he goes flying through the air like a helicopter then comes crashing down...gets up like a confused little kid. He will get seriously hurt in this league he should not be playing in the NFL no way.

If you look at the 1:00 minute mark you will see him get crushed...Then a little bit later he can't jump high enough to deflect a streeter TD. He just looks terrible. Morris Claiborne is the top of the crop this year. Dre sucks he has no balance...I agree 4 to 7 round for chase.

I don't know what your talking about. I saw a small guy put press man to man coverage on a guy who runs a 4.36 40. You mean he didn't knock down the jump ball thrown to a 6'4 WR that also has a 39 vert. NO WAY! The guy is short but Haden isn't a giant either.

Oh and on that Helicopter play he dove for the tackle and got smashed by his own LB who completely wiffed on his own tackle, so if I get anything from that play it's 9 sucks for not getting the tackle in the backfield and don't draft #52 LB cause he could hit the broad side of a barn.

Really the only negative things I saw were a few times he would have to dive tackle someone to barely get them out of bounce, but I expect that from a guy who is small, I want a cover corner not a run stopper. And the last play they should he over shoots the tackle, but he also got clipped hard on the play too so how much of it was really his fault.

I don't think the kid is that good.

@brownfish said:

Have you actually watched his games...he is terrible...constantly getting beaten up...he can not tackle. I wish i could find the game on youtube where he comes around to tackle the running back in the backfield and almost dies...he goes flying through the air like a helicopter then comes crashing down...gets up like a confused little kid. He will get seriously hurt in this league he should not be playing in the NFL no way.

Flying like a helicopter and then crashes? That sounds pretty entertaining to me. Let's take him at 4.

If you look at the 1:00 minute mark you will see him get crushed...Then a little bit later he can't jump high enough to deflect a streeter TD. He just looks terrible. Morris Claiborne is the top of the crop this year. Dre sucks he has no balance...I agree 4 to 7 round for chase.

@slowburn said:

Chases membership in NAMBLA (North American Man Boy Love Association) was leaked to the press

Are you implying that he is a fan of the hero of The Hunger Games? You know, a Peetaphile?