@blowe said:

welcome to 4 months ago

Still impressive.

@kosar_for_president said:

Pretty damn impressive.

welcome to 4 months ago

@kerrigan91 said:

Wow, that's wrong.

Snyder hasn't been a dumb owner, he just had an idiot as a GM in Vinny Cerrato. Seriously, I could have done a better job than Vinny. Vinny's the guy who wanted to trade two firsts for Chad Johnson. Snyder is a young owner who wanted to see his team get better, he just had a worst personnel man in the history of the NFL telling him who to get - Haynesworthless, renting Jason Taylor for a year for second and sixth rounders, Adam Archuleta, releasing Ryan Clark, the list goes on and on. Vinny traded away the picks, not Snyder.

Since we're bringing up an old thread I have to comment. That's a Redskins homer comment if I ever saw one. I have to rank Cerrato as third worst. No one can top Matt Millen's 7 year destruction of the Lions, topped off by the one and only 0-16 season. Millen is closely followed by the senile Al Davis, who didn't realize it was far past time to head out to pasture.

@king-ghoolie-lives said:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/browns-qb-brandon-weeden-cannon-174949093--nfl.html

And they signed his favorite target for cheap. It just keeps getting better and better.

As I said, Weeden will the the BEST QB taken in the 2012 draft.

The biggest plus I took out of the article is Weeden has some touch- and knows when to take something off the 100mph fastball- that was Horseballs I (Derek Anderson's) big weakness.

@king-ghoolie-lives said:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/browns-qb-brandon-weeden-cannon-174949093--nfl.html

And they signed his favorite target for cheap. It just keeps getting better and better.

As I said, Weeden will the the BEST QB taken in the 2012 draft.

Cant wait to see him in live game action in a few months. Another thing in the article talks about Bert Reed doing well, i think he makes the team and can be a huge asset on offense.

Endymion said:

Griffin is likely to be considered a bust in 3 years, because he's being taken by one of the dumbest NFL owners, ever. Synder has bought the biggest name coaches and players, and consistently trades away his draft picks. Who is he going to get to complement Griffin through the draft before 2015? His foray's into free agency haven't improved his team previously, so what has changed that will turn that around for Griffin?

Wow, that's wrong.

Snyder hasn't been a dumb owner, he just had an idiot as a GM in Vinny Cerrato. Seriously, I could have done a better job than Vinny. Vinny's the guy who wanted to trade two firsts for Chad Johnson. Snyder is a young owner who wanted to see his team get better, he just had a worst personnel man in the history of the NFL telling him who to get - Haynesworthless, renting Jason Taylor for a year for second and sixth rounders, Adam Archuleta, releasing Ryan Clark, the list goes on and on. Vinny traded away the picks, not Snyder.

Now that we have two very good personnel men under Snyder in Shanahan and Allen, our free agent moves are smart (no outrageous contracts - lose $18M and still have a FA like we did? Genius. And the right players - not the most expensive ones) and our drafts are very good (Williams, Riley, Kerrigan, Jenkins, Hankerson, Helu, Royster, Gomes). We are down only one draft pick per year for next three drafts, and Shanahan has shown he can find steal in the later rounds, so we're not really going to miss those first rounders. Last year we started with 5 picks and ended with 12. Shanahan got picks for Haynesworthless and McNabb.

We brought in the right free agents again this offseason for Griffin, players who excel at YAC. With Merriweather and Jackson, we have two above average safeties who can flourish if they want to. We were able to re-sign Fletcher.

RG3 will be just fine in five years.

@browndog said:

1) Those complaining about Brandon Weeden's age should remember Roger Staubach. The former OSU quarterback Brandon Weeden is 28 years old, but former Dallas Cowboys quarterback Roger Staubach was 27 before he joined the NFL. To read the full story click on the link below.

2) ESPN Sports Science highlights Oklahoma State QB Brandon Weeden who accuracy hits clay pigeons with a 48 mile/hour fastball. To watch this click on the link below (2:32).

3) ESPN NFL analyst, John Gruden, interviews OSU QB Brandon Weeden for the 3rd episode of his 2012 "Gruden's QB Camp" series. To watch the full episode click on the link below (25:23).

Like I said- that clay pigeon thing is standing there with no pass rush. Nice demo of doing what you do best. NFL defenses however, will make you do what you do WORST- which in Weeden's case, is try to repeat that while on the move. (Scouting report says he can't.)

http://newsok.com/nfl-draft-those-complaining-about-brandon-weedens-age-should-remember-roger-staubach/article/3668853

2) ESPN Sports Science highlights Oklahoma State QB Brandon Weeden who accuracy hits clay pigeons with a 48 mile/hour fastball. To watch this click on the link below (2:32).

3) ESPN NFL analyst, John Gruden, interviews OSU QB Brandon Weeden for the 3rd episode of his 2012 "Gruden's QB Camp" series. To watch the full episode click on the link below (25:23).

pleez stop all this shit. can't we have a brownsboard blackout until 8pm thursday night?

Z

@usfbrown said:

He's 28. He doesn't have that much wear and tear on his body. He'll be more mature and possibly more poised starting than other rookies. If he lasts 5 - 10 years, that would be a decent NFL career. I'd wager the 37th pick on him. Holmgren stated he likes to draft a QB every year.

And that Clay Pigeon thing was freaking cool. He said it took 7 tries to hit it once, but after that he was nailing them. Pretty crazy stuff. Quick release and great timing.

He has had tommy johns surgery though. I know it was from a different sport, but its still his throwing arm.....just sayin

@the-gipper said:

I still want Austin Davis in the 5th round....he will be the SECOND best QB in this draft....either Luck or Griffin will be a bust somewhat.

Griffin is likely to be considered a bust in 3 years, because he's being taken by one of the dumbest NFL owners, ever. Synder has bought the biggest name coaches and players, and consistently trades away his draft picks. Who is he going to get to complement Griffin through the draft before 2015? His foray's into free agency haven't improved his team previously, so what has changed that will turn that around for Griffin?

Indy's owner was successful with the Manning, so there's at least more hope for Luck in terms of not being a bust.

@tour2ma said:

Tougher question, but I still have to say no... not fully recovered from Quinn-i-tis yet...

EDIT: Article raises interesting point about other interested teams getting scared, if the Fins/ his old Coach pass on him at #8... Could open the door for them to snag him in Rnd 2 or via a surprise trade-up to a late 1st...

Hadn't seen much of him until the Combine. What's made you so high on him, Gip?

actually, I don't know. Perhaps, in reality it is BJ Coleman that I am just as high on. He was a transfer from Tennessee:

@thaak said:

If Tannehill falls out of the top 20 (maybe out of the 1st round), will that allow us to wait until the 3rd round for Weeden?

Or if Tannehill falls ot us at 22, do we take him there?

Tougher question, but I still have to say no... not fully recovered from Quinn-i-tis yet...

EDIT: Article raises interesting point about other interested teams getting scared, if the Fins/ his old Coach pass on him at #8... Could open the door for them to snag him in Rnd 2 or via a surprise trade-up to a late 1st...

@the-gipper said:

I still want Austin Davis in the 5th round....he will be the SECOND best QB in this draft...

Hadn't seen much of him until the Combine. What's made you so high on him, Gip?