@cambridgeho said:

Tempting vs. D. Martin perhaps, but not vs TR...

@cambridgeho said:

If we got a 2nd and Greene and next years first then it would be very tempting.

You beat me to it! Great minds!

@mark-o said:

The Jets could trade with Minnesota to get the #3. Heard Lombardi from NFL network saying that he doesn't think the Jets will do it, but he thinks that they should do it. Offer next years 1 this years 3 and Greene and he thinks that would be enough to move up to the Vikings pick.

But the vikings don't need Greene and would the Jets even give up Greene? They want a two back system and LT is gone. I think that trade makes sense for the Browns and I think they might actually consider it. I would want the Jets second round pick this year though if they have one instead of the third.

@mark-o said:

The Jets could trade with Minnesota to get the #3. Heard Lombardi from NFL network saying that he doesn't think the Jets will do it, but he thinks that they should do it. Offer next years 1 this years 3 and Greene and he thinks that would be enough to move up to the Vikings pick.

If we got a 2nd and Greene and next years first then it would be very tempting.

@butler-browns said:

Why do they need a RB? They've got Tim Tebow now.

They are what they are. I guess they called Trent Richardson to Talk about if they were to take him. I know they would have to go through us to get him and they would have to give a shit ton for him. I hope we do not do it obviously.

@cambridgeho said:

Espn rumor central is sayin the Jets might be trying to get Trent now.

Why do they need a RB? They've got Tim Tebow now.

@miktoxic said:

@miktoxic said:

i for one will stick up for poeticg even though i've wanted to physically strangle (if i coulda found him) him during this past month or so with all his TR love.

If we stay... Claiborne, but...

Agree that picking TR would not make me jump off a bridge... and Po would more than make up for our collective lack of pure joy...

@miktoxic said:

you could have the pope playing QB in tampa and they still wouldn't sell out. so your argument about a PR moved attached to a pick/player is moot,

unless of course the pope is handing the ball of to god..i mean....tebow.

Ah... but there was a time when they could have sold rope to hang yourself from the yardarm for a $100 per foot.

@harry-buffalo said:

Gut feeling...

At #22 the Browns will take either Mercilus or Perry, which ever one is still availible. They won't go WR/RB at that spot unless both Perry and Mercilus are gone.

THAT would piss me off...

At #22 the Browns will take either Mercilus or Perry, which ever one is still availible. They won't go WR/RB at that spot unless both Perry and Mercilus are gone.

but anyone that knows football knows he would be a helluva improvement at that position than what we basically don't have now.

yeah i want claiborn only like i would like kalil (if the FO that he could make a seamless transition to RT)..... bookends. dominant OL @both tackle positions.....dominate defense with 2 lock-down corners.

but don't hate on a guy for wanting something.

where ever the chips may fall we are still going to add someone badass.

and if TR is the guy then so be it.

so it is written. so it shall be done.

@cdl15 said:

What a bunch of whinning bttches. Stuck at four staying at four waaaaaaaaaa... Lets move up two spots but it will cost us three maybe four first rounders. Now people are upset with not movin up to three.

Cant wait to see what MY TEAM does tomorrow.

@cdl15 said:

HahahahahAcant wait to hear u cry

Can't wait until you graduate from elementary school...

Now get off the computer and go molest your sister... again...

@poeticg said:

At #4, T-Rex or Trade down.

HahahahahAcant wait to hear u cry

Cant wait to see what MY TEAM does tomorrow.

@miktoxic said:

you could have the pope playing QB in tampa and they still wouldn't sell out. so your argument about a PR moved attached to a pick/player is moot,

unless of course the pope is handing the ball of to god..i mean....tebow.

So they are fighting for a larger piece of the pie- all the reason to make a big splash.

I look at TB as a similar market to SD- the most fickle fan bases in the world. I know some of these fans would rather be entertained than actually make selections that are good for the team.

@tour2ma said:

• Agree, but when a top player is there who fills a need at a position, you go get him...
  
• But w/ CBA it isn't as high. Google can't seem to find who MC's agent is.
  
• I'd settle for close to Patrick.
  
• But none of those three linemen are consensus locks at LT.
  

Which is why our phone would ring off the hook, if he fell to us...

Kalil is one of the precious few, can't miss, consensus players in this year's draft.

Is Kalil...Robert Gallery? I don't think he is but we place a premium on a few positions which is where teams miss in looking back at past drafts. Is their history to suggest teams trade up for LT's?

I think the CBA will work against owners as well. I'm waiting for the holdouts that will ensue when some of these young stars with lower rookie salaries start to produce and want what some of their past counterparts got in prior drafts. You may not pay them now- but your sure to pay them later and sometimes later can be sooner than what people think.

Close to Patrick considering Richardson? No.

Close to Patrick considering Blackmon? Debatable and I may go Mo but this FO and coaching staff knows too well about the 14-10, 13-7 type games we lost last year.

@sdbrownsfan said:

Who sells more tickets and its a legitimate concern in Tampa? T Rich or Claiborne.

you could have the pope playing QB in tampa and they still wouldn't sell out. so your argument about a PR moved attached to a pick/player is moot,

unless of course the pope is handing the ball of to god..i mean....tebow.

@cambridgeho said:

Blount was not drafted by Tampa. Matter a fact he was not drafted at all. Titans picked him up then cut him. Tampa could really use a rb now since they have some good wrs and a good qb.

Browns fan sometimes don't get PR moves behind picks and free agent aquisitions becuase ownership has taken this loyal fanbase for granted.

Who sells more tickets and its a legitimate concern in Tampa? T Rich or Claiborne.

You could argue and I absolutely agree with Bill Polian that in five years we will talk about Richardson as the best player in this draft. Luck will not have the right support for at least two years- that roster is terrible and will certainly be a win for the Browns. RGIII is a spread QB- you could label him as the next Cam Newton and but I think that's too easy to do and he may fall with some of these expectations. Look back at his numbers he has put together 1 great season. The Kalil hype is a function of being the best LT in this draft. Lots of people prefer Patrick Peterson over Mo Claiborne and Peterson's special teams skills covered up some blunders he made last season.

then who would you take @4 if theat's where we stay CB or WR or even the OL?

@sdbrownsfan said:

CBA or no CBA his number will be high...

I saw an interview with Les Miles a week ago comparing Patrick Peterson and Claiborne- if you really read between the lines he had a more glowing endorsement for Peterson. I trust the Browns know and can compare the two as well.

I'm not sure Kalil gains interest- lots of teams looking for pass rushers in the 10-20 range and Reiff, Martin, Decastro for the oline teams is not a bad consolation prize.

• Agree, but when a top player is there who fills a need at a position, you go get him...
  
• But w/ CBA it isn't as high. Google can't seem to find who MC's agent is.
  
• I'd settle for close to Patrick.
  
• But none of those three linemen are consensus locks at LT.
  

@jrb12711 said:

...Kalil is that once every 4-5 years talent at the position.

Which is why our phone would ring off the hook, if he fell to us...

Kalil is one of the precious few, can't miss, consensus players in this year's draft.