Lmao...

@gafreleets said:

very true.

richardson was a good pick, it was sullied with the fact that you gave up picks you didn't have to since he'd have been available anyway, but a good player if not a great pick.

everyone else? not even close to sure things. your new QB (you hope) could retire of old age before he playes his 6th year with you (f'ing hilarious) and you picked him a round early.

whoever said the browns draft was dominated by fear was correct..........and making decisions because you're afraid of what another team is gonna do is just no way to run an organization.

There is no such thing as a sure thing anywhere that has ever been drafted. Go back and look at the #1 overall picks through the years. About a 50% bust rate.

As for "fear", the Browns did exactly what the Steelers did: drafted for need.

Steelers need OL and a NT, that is what they took.

So, I guess if the Browns drafted out of fear, so did the Steelers.

(as there is little doubt that right now the Steelers are looking at being at best the 3rd best team in the division)

@gafreleets said:

and now begins the cleveland fans talking themselves into believing they had a good draft.

across the board for every analysis i've seen so far you guys are being graded at a dead even C. i've seen as high as B and as low as D+, but the majority rate your draft a C.

now that dosen't mean you haven't improved your team or that you didn't get your "5 starters" you were looking for, but lets be honest......it's not saying much.

most guys in the NFL could be an improvement to the clowns at the position they play.

you'd have been graded alot better if you hadn't let the vikes give you the 10ft long 4inch wide splinter ridden shaft up the pooper to get richardson (couldn't you have just been happy with blackman?) when he'd have almost 100% been there for your pick. and then you go and waste your 2nd pick on weedon who by almost everyone's opinion was a reach and would have been available for your 2nd round pick.

decent later round picks, but ruined by 1st round idiocracy.

Steelers draft grade: C- Probably got one good OL

@miktoxic said:

go fuck yourself, little punk bitch.

you don't like other people's opinions? well then you're doing the wrong thing by being here.

Settle down Mic, you don't need to talk like that even if his comment was immature...5 starters a draft is a bit unrealistic. 1-2 is a solid draft. We got 3 for sure, and maybe 2 other....that FB might start and Marcic(sp) gets cut....so hey, maybe we did get the 5.

They may not be the guys you wanted, but the first 3 picks start day 1 unless they get hurt in camp. Bank it.

@harry-buffalo said:

I agree that he will need to take more time to learn the system than QB's who ran a pro system in college but in all fairness he ran the WCO at the Senior Bowl and he did good with it.

McShay said that Weeden was picking up the WCO great at the senior bowl.

@evilbutterfly said:

It is going to be hard to teach Weeden to run a pro offense.

All I'll say beyond that, is all hail John Hughes! Ha! I hope he'll make an impact as a run stopper. I like an underdog.

I also hope for the FO's life's sake, the other picks they have, perform well and the WR corps are improved. I'm not impressed with Weeden.

I agree that he will need to take more time to learn the system than QB's who ran a pro system in college but in all fairness he ran the WCO at the Senior Bowl and he did good with it.

you don't like other people's opinions? well then you're doing the wrong thing by being here.

@miktoxic said:

with 13 picks we shoulda walked out the door with at least 5 solid starters all at positions of need.

fell for minnie's bluff, drafted a rb at 3 (???????) a future clipboard holder, had a chance at a top tier WR and OL and whiffed on both.............

this draft is shit and anyone who thinks it wasn't is just plain DUMB.

All I'll say beyond that, is all hail John Hughes! Ha! I hope he'll make an impact as a run stopper. I like an underdog.

I also hope for the FO's life's sake, the other picks they have, perform well and the WR corps are improved. I'm not impressed with Weeden.

@king-ghoolie-lives said:

You cannot grade a draft until the guys play, maybe even for a couple years.

The philosophy of what H&H did is rock-solid. There is every reason to believe that these picks will be as good, if not better than anoyone else's frist 2 picks.

WHo the hell was kissing Belichik's ass for taking Brady at the time? Too many variables to be grading ANY draft. On principle.......... the logic of this draft is dead ass solid.

I agree 100%. No one, not even the so called ESPN & NFL Network "experts" KNOW for sure what may happen on the field. I really like what they did in this draft & my grade is.....WS...that means is, "We'll see".

Ghoolie, I really liked the Brady line...poor Bill was probably getting cursed when he passed over higher rated players for him.

Mike

@gafreleets said:

very true.

richardson was a good pick, it was sullied with the fact that you gave up picks you didn't have to since he'd have been available anyway, but a good player if not a great pick.

everyone else? not even close to sure things. your new QB (you hope) could retire of old age before he playes his 6th year with you (f'ing hilarious) and you picked him a round early.

whoever said the browns draft was dominated by fear was correct..........and making decisions because you're afraid of what another team is gonna do is just no way to run an organization.

It's really hard to take a guy who calls himself steeler fag seriously on anything. Do you honestly believe any browns fans care what steeler fag thinks about our draft?

Rome wasn't built in a day. The reason I've been so negative on this organization is because they kept making excuses for lousy QB play. We finally have grabbed a solid talent at the position. So let stupid, misinformed people say our draft sucks and we'll keep getting 4-5 starters out of them.

@miktoxic said:

with 13 picks we shoulda walked out the door with at least 5 solid starters all at positions of need.

fell for minnie's bluff, drafted a rb at 3 (???????) a future clipboard holder, had a chance at a top tier WR and OL and whiffed on both.............

this draft is shit and anyone who thinks it wasn't is just plain DUMB.

Sorry Mic, but I disagree with you on this.

@brownsfan said:

Draft netted 4 starters????? That's a whole lot of wishfull thinking. As it stands today its one legit starter, then a whole lot of hoping that Weeden, Schwarts, and (not sure whose being counted as a starter) actually pan out. Unless we aren't talking about legit starters, rather just guys who happen to end up starting because there is no other option.

very true.

richardson was a good pick, it was sullied with the fact that you gave up picks you didn't have to since he'd have been available anyway, but a good player if not a great pick.

everyone else? not even close to sure things. your new QB (you hope) could retire of old age before he playes his 6th year with you (f'ing hilarious) and you picked him a round early.

whoever said the browns draft was dominated by fear was correct..........and making decisions because you're afraid of what another team is gonna do is just no way to run an organization.

@miktoxic said:

with 13 picks we shoulda walked out the door with at least 5 solid starters all at positions of need.fell for minnie's bluff, drafted a rb at 3 (???????) a future clipboard holder, had a chance at a top tier WR and OL and whiffed on both.............this draft is shit and anyone who thinks it wasn't is just plain DUMB.

With your obviously impressive ability to see into the future, you must be in high demand to run every NFL team. Damn, you must have a heavy burden being a know-it-all.

@butler-browns said:

Richardson, Miller and Schwartz were good picks. All can start from day one. Weeden was decent. He'll be the starter after three games.

Other than those guys... meh...

So a draft that nets you 4 starters is rated a C??

You're kidding, right??

@miktoxic said:

with 13 picks we shoulda walked out the door with at least 5 solid starters all at positions of need.

fell for minnie's bluff, drafted a rb at 3 (???????) a future clipboard holder, had a chance at a top tier WR and OL and whiffed on both.............

this draft is shit and anyone who thinks it wasn't is just plain DUMB.

Ok mister "half-empty" go take some prozac and ask the nurse to tie your jacket straighter.

@gafreleets said:

and now begins the cleveland fans talking themselves into believing they had a good draft.

across the board for every analysis i've seen so far you guys are being graded at a dead even C. i've seen as high as B and as low as D+, but the majority rate your draft a C.

now that dosen't mean you haven't improved your team or that you didn't get your "5 starters" you were looking for, but lets be honest......it's not saying much.

most guys in the NFL could be an improvement to the clowns at the position they play.

you'd have been graded alot better if you hadn't let the vikes give you the 10ft long 4inch wide splinter ridden shaft up the pooper to get richardson (couldn't you have just been happy with blackman?) when he'd have almost 100% been there for your pick. and then you go and waste your 2nd pick on weedon who by almost everyone's opinion was a reach and would have been available for your 2nd round pick.

decent later round picks, but ruined by 1st round idiocracy.

Yeah because we gave up atlanta's 4th rounder and a 5 and 7, even though we had multiple picks in those rounds. Also we got Weeden with Atlanta's 1st. So at the end of the day Atlanta has pretty much gave us a upgraded at qb and ammo to draft the best rb in the draft and Greg little, yeah you can say we got fleeced, look at the big picture asses.