@the-gipper said:

Whose system do you think Chuck Noll brought to the Steelers? Perhaps the guy that he played for and coached under, i.e. Paul Brown. Though different in several ways, both the Steeler dynasty and the 49ers dynasty were derivative of the Browns dynasty as they were both brought to you by Paul Brown disciples.

Was Paul Brown able to bring a second act to championship form? No. But then, other than Weeb Ewbank, no other coach has been able to do that in history either. PB got his teams to two SBs (not as HC, but as owner/mentor). After his death is when the Bengals became a POS franchise.

Yeah, Mike Brown is not like his father at all.

Randy didn't care, didn't really like football.

But he apparently got his nose out of it and spent money when someone told him to.

Hopefully Jimmy won't think of himself as jerry jones does.

WSS

@stewy said:

Yeah, like Paul Browns methods worked out well for the Bengals. Since 68 they teetered between mediocrity and suckdom.

Since the NFL merger in 1970, no team has won more games than the Steelers.

Forget Brown...hope some of Rooney has rubbed off on Haslam.

Whose system do you think Chuck Noll brought to the Steelers? Perhaps the guy that he played for and coached under, i.e. Paul Brown. Though different in several ways, both the Steeler dynasty and the 49ers dynasty were derivative of the Browns dynasty as they were both brought to you by Paul Brown disciples.

Was Paul Brown able to bring a second act to championship form? No. But then, other than Weeb Ewbank, no other coach has been able to do that in history either. PB got his teams to two SBs (not as HC, but as owner/mentor). After his death is when the Bengals became a POS franchise.

If he steps in and starts dictating who we take, at least he is a BIG SEC fan and will start calling for them.

I am not saying it would be good he overrides the scouts, but at least he is pulling from the best of the best of college football. He might get it half right.

@stewy said:

Yeah, like Paul Browns methods worked out well for the Bengals. Since 68 they teetered between mediocrity and suckdom.

Since the NFL merger in 1970, no team has won more games than the Steelers.

Forget Brown...hope some of Rooney has rubbed off on Haslam.

Before 1970 the stoolers were the worst team EVER. You can start any stat on any day. Just look at MLB. They have stats for night games on tuesday, on the road, from the 7th inning on, with 2 stikes and no one on base against a lefty, on grass...............

@king-ghoolie-lives said:

Fuck the Rooneys' The had their share of shit football.I prefer he looks to the Paul Brown methods.

Yeah, like Paul Browns methods worked out well for the Bengals. Since 68 they teetered between mediocrity and suckdom.

Since the NFL merger in 1970, no team has won more games than the Steelers.

Forget Brown...hope some of Rooney has rubbed off on Haslam.

@dick-mellon said:

Well, things can only get better, right?

He's a Steelers fan from Tennessee and a businessman.

He does not give a shit about you or Cleveland.

And you believe him when he says he's gonna keep the team in a small market?

His family made all their money by putting their businesses on the main roads with high traffic and big markets.

Cleveland peaked in the 1960 US Census.

Regarding moving the Browns-

1) Lerner made it the #1 priority when selling out that Haslam agree to never move the team.

2) Even if Haslam wanted to move the team- he couldn't do it, at least until 2029. When Modell pulled the rug out- the best lawyers in Cleveland (Browns fans incidentally) wrote up the contract with the NFL and the team with the biggest poison pill they could dream up, should an owner try to move out of Cleveland. It would be financially impossible for Haslam to move the Browns anywhere.

@dick-mellon said:

Well, things can only get better, right?

He's a Steelers fan from Tennessee and a businessman.

He was recruited to invest in the Steelers. If it had been the Bengals/Jags/Vikings/Jets/Panthers whatever that he was invited to invest in he probably would. He told the league he would be interested in being a majority owner if a franchise east of the Mississippi came available. The Browns became available.

He does not give a shit about you or Cleveland.

I say that he has now a billion reasons that you are wrong.

And you believe him when he says he's gonna keep the team in a small market?

Yes, because he has no choice. He is locked into Cleveland, legally and morally. He understands two things: A. That the birthplace of the NFL requires an NFL team, and B. That this area is a sleeping giant. It just needs a team that can win before the area goes crazy.

His family made all their money by putting their businesses on the main roads with high traffic and big markets.You apparently have never travelled. Look at the website link to this guy's company. These are truckstops, not fern bars. They need to be located out on the road where the truckers drive...and that is more often in rural areas. They are located on the edges of larger cities or in the rural areas along the Interstates.

Cleveland peaked in the 1960 US Census. So didn't every city in the Northeast and Midwest.

@dick-mellon said:

Well, things can only get better, right?

He's a Steelers fan from Tennessee and a businessman.

He does not give a shit about you or Cleveland.

And you believe him when he says he's gonna keep the team in a small market?

His family made all their money by putting their businesses on the main roads with high traffic and big markets.

Cleveland peaked in the 1960 US Census.

Dick, stop being a Dick. That is all.

Zombo said:

Hallelujah! No more Soccer Fag running the team!

Zombo

Amen and Hallelujah!

Looks like the stool bandwagon got one fmaily smaller. Pitts got bigger problems....like the reds crushing all those bucco fans hopes of a pennant

@dick-mellon said:

Well, things can only get better, right?

He's a Steelers fan from Tennessee and a businessman.

He does not give a shit about you or Cleveland.

And you believe him when he says he's gonna keep the team in a small market?

His family made all their money by putting their businesses on the main roads with high traffic and big markets.

Cleveland peaked in the 1960 US Census.

STFU.

He's a Steelers fan from Tennessee and a businessman.

He does not give a shit about you or Cleveland.

And you believe him when he says he's gonna keep the team in a small market?

His family made all their money by putting their businesses on the main roads with high traffic and big markets.

Cleveland peaked in the 1960 US Census.

It could be wild seeing the Browns, the Bengals, the Ravens and the Steelers all having 13-3 records with the 3 loses coming to away losses at each divisional opponant. It would all come down to coin flips on which 3 teams out of the division make the playoffs. This happening year after year getting each other ready to win the Super Bowl every year.

@miktoxic said:

don't think he'll 'stickin around' cleveland for very much longer. doesn't have to deal with all the US thug-a-lugs anymore and our boorish ways. he can sit and have his spot of tea and still collect money while being thousands of miles away watching 'football' (HA!)

remember he has that castle to build.

Do you mean Futbol?

remember he has that castle to build.

@the-gipper said:

The difference is that in the NFL just having money isn't enough. Look at Dan Snyder etc. The Rooneys may be one of the poorest of NFL owners, yet they know how to manage a football team. With shared revenues, etc. the wealth of the owner of an NFL team is less relevent than an MLB owner. Now, if Lerner really wanted to own the Indians and put his big money into that....that would be great. But I think he has less passion for baseball than he did football. He is essentially a Eurofag. He will probably want to buy a German professional handball team.

But, as I have said, if he really likes soccer he should buy into the MLS for a Cleveland team. He can hold games in Cleveland Browns stadium perhaps.

Good point.

@roach said:

i want to get excited about this, but i need some encouragement. It smells like Dolan/Indians all over again.

Jacobs bought the Indians for $35 million and sold the team to Dolan for $300 million. Now, did Dolan have $300 million laying around to buy the team? No. He had to borrow. He's been saddled with debt service on his loans while our star baseball players have left for greener pastures.

Does anyone think that Mr. Haslam has $1 billion sitting around in a mutual fund? Let's hope so.

The difference is that in the NFL just having money isn't enough. Look at Dan Snyder etc. The Rooneys may be one of the poorest of NFL owners, yet they know how to manage a football team. With shared revenues, etc. the wealth of the owner of an NFL team is less relevent than an MLB owner. Now, if Lerner really wanted to own the Indians and put his big money into that....that would be great. But I think he has less passion for baseball than he did football. He is essentially a Eurofag. He will probably want to buy a German professional handball team.

But, as I have said, if he really likes soccer he should buy into the MLS for a Cleveland team. He can hold games in Cleveland Browns stadium perhaps.

So many people here seem to be so caught up in how deep the new owner's pockets are.

The Lerners had the deepest of the deep and their organization 'stunk' for nearly 15 years.

Don't mix up money with smarts (and commitment).

This new owner will do just fine.

How could he make things worse.

@roach said:

i want to get excited about this, but i need some encouragement. It smells like Dolan/Indians all over again.

Jacobs bought the Indians for $35 million and sold the team to Dolan for $300 million. Now, did Dolan have $300 million laying around to buy the team? No. He had to borrow. He's been saddled with debt service on his loans while our star baseball players have left for greener pastures.

Does anyone think that Mr. Haslam has $1 billion sitting around in a mutual fund? Let's hope so.

The family is pretty deep in cash. About 3.5 deep.

Why is this just regurgitation of what I read on Yahoo, ESPN, and Profootballtalk.com

And why is the title of this thread saying that Haslem is saying something about it?

@feartheroo said:

I wonder what they would say if I walked into my bank and requested a billion dollar loan?

"OK, but we need to see your last 4 pay stubs"

@browns149 said:

Not to mention ALL the cash the Lerners made in those 14 years. Pretty good investment if you can get it

I wonder what they would say if I walked into my bank and requested a billion dollar loan?