@blowe said:

idiot.

intelligent. God bless you.

@brownskidd said:

I agree. I don't ever remember as a kid seeing 2 minute long commercials for all these drugs. And the list of side effects is mind numbing. "Oh, you have restless leg syndrome, take these pills that will paralyze you from the nuts down, and give you suicidal thoughts while you experience the shits out of your belly button".

Ha! now THAT'S funny!! +2

@next-year-perpetually said:

I'm mostly a lurker round here, but I wanted to point out that this is not true. Adderall is a regular amphetamine, like speed basically. While these can certainly be harmful and it's not good to use a ton, the harmful effects are not on par with meth (i.e. methamphetamine). Don't want to get too technical on a football board, but there is an extra methyl (chemistry anyone?) in methamphetamine that alters the way it interacts with your system.

potato, po-tahto. one of my cousins is a 50 yr old competent chemist and he agrees there's very little difference. essentially they are fraternal twin brothers who went to K thru 12 together then one went to college and the other didn't. meth carries such a severe social stigma no one wants to admit association with it but they are indeed of the same family. i agree with you there is some difference (for one i CAN feel the effects of crystal >> so that alone supports your post right there) but i still feel we're mostly splitting hairs.

@choco said:

Adderall is nothing lime meth....in either its chemical composition, effects, or side effects.

Thats like saying alcohol is the same as codine because theyre both downers.

don't believe the hype. its more like Captain Morgan and 151.

i prefer Sailor Jerry anyway.

@mario said:

The front office needs to step up and suspend Joe Haden for 6 games on top of his 4 game NFL suspension he may receive. Nip this in the butt and set an example.

idiot.

Thats like saying alcohol is the same as codine because theyre both downers.

@sisky-fringo said:

not just generation X, generation Y, or generation Next, but America as a whole is targeted to be medicated imho DHBF.

it is my belief that the more "they" keep us all loaded-up the less we will notice and/or care to do something about...but that's for discussion on another board at another time.

signed,

Paranoid Conspiracy Theorist

I agree. I don't ever remember as a kid seeing 2 minute long commercials for all these drugs. And the list of side effects is mind numbing. "Oh, you have restless leg syndrome, take these pills that will paralyze you from the nuts down, and give you suicidal thoughts while you experience the shits out of your belly button".

My wife and I have a friend who swears she has ADD at almost 40 years old. She can be scattered brain in her thoughts and her speech but she doesn't lose focus on things and she finishes what she starts. Just because she will during a conversation get off on tangents and talk your ear off doesn't mean she has ADD. However, she went to the DR. and he/her put her on something. She tells everyone "I have ADD"... no you don't. You just want to have something wrong with you.

There are people that just want to have something wrong with them and that is who all these pharmaceutical companies are going after.

@sisky-fringo said:

@bills-n-browns-fan said:

Yeah it is, gets you super focused.

adderall is meth, literally. not like it, it is it. a prescribable, socially acceptable meth. fwiw, meth is in oxy's, too.

i have a script and it has no noticeable effect on me. btw, those who actually need it don't get high from it...they get normal.

i have no idea if Joe needs it or not but he should know better.

hey Joe, here 's your mulligan douche...don't let it happen again.

I'm mostly a lurker around here, but I wanted to point out that this is not true. Adderall is a regular amphetamine, like speed basically. While these can certainly be harmful and it's not good to use a ton, the harmful effects are not on par with meth (i.e. methamphetamine). Don't want to get too technical on a football board, but there is an extra methyl (chemistry anyone?) in methamphetamine that alters the way it interacts with your system.

I definitely agree that adderall use is an epidemic at the Ivys and probably many schools. Most of the people that went to undergrad here on my campus tried it or used it regularly for cramming.

@sisky-fringo said:

hey Joe, here 's your mulligan douche...don't let it happen again.

my fave browns player too. and i agree ^ 1000%.

it is my belief that the more "they" keep us all loaded-up the less we will notice and/or care to do something about...but that's for discussion on another board at another time.

signed,

Paranoid Conspiracy Theorist

@bills-n-browns-fan said:

Its adderall. It doesn't really effect your body unless you OD. The effect of it is that it gets you really focused.

that's bullshit. anyone who uses it regularly for an extended period of time (like a year plus) who isn't diagnosed as needing it becomes completely useless. it's currently an epidemic at Ivy Schools and places like MIT. they can not function adequately without it...it's like it rewires you.

always remember, everything in moderation people.

Mike

@the-cysko-kid said:

Adderall is some good shit. Can't blame Joe for wanting to use it. Top notch performance enhancer. But come on man, get some fake pee or something. Quick fix plus beats a drug test every time.

@bills-n-browns-fan said:

Yeah it is, gets you super focused.

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adderall is meth, literally. not like it, it is it. a prescribable, socially acceptable meth. fwiw, meth is in oxy's, too.

i have a script and it has no noticeable effect on me. btw, those who actually need it don't get high from it...they get normal.

i have no idea if Joe needs it or not but he should know better.

hey Joe, here 's your mulligan douche...don't let it happen again.

@blowe said:

I know this. Regretfully, I was prescribed to adderall at one point and absolutely hated the way it made me feel. I would have no way of accessing Haden's prescriptions because that should be private and protected information. If you can get that info, I don't want to know how/where you got it

Can you say HIPPA?

@unsympathetic said:

Let's get Haden's suspension out of the way during the same time that Taylor is injured.. those are going to be bad games with growing pains for the offense.

Rip the bandaid off quickly, take our medicine and be done with it.

Might be a good idea.

Certainly I don't think the Browns will challenge for the playoffs this year. Sorry. It might behoove us to have all these issues out of the way: Haden, Fujita, Taylor etc.

Throw some of these young players into the fire: Winn and Hughes on the D-line, Acho and JMJ at LB, Skrine at Haden's spot.

Once the starters come back, if they do, these kids will have gotten valuable experience....and some may never give up their job (esp JMJ).

Then...for next year....with a year of experience under their belts can you say:

PLAYOFFS! Playoffs?

I talking about Playoffs....not...not...not

(Oh, wait, I seem to be mixing my quotes)

@mr.-sensitive said:

Adderall is legal with a prescription. Do you know Joe hadens prescription history? If so please post it.

I know this. Regretfully, I was prescribed to adderall at one point and absolutely hated the way it made me feel. I would have no way of accessing Haden's prescriptions because that should be private and protected information. If you can get that info, I don't want to know how/where you got it

@blowe said:

Actually, cocaine and adderall are both schedule 2 drugs and carry a penalty of up to 1 year in prison and/or a $1000 fine. Maybe fact check before you post something stupid and erroneous.

Adderall is legal with a prescription. Do you know Joe hadens prescription history? If so please post it.

@bills-n-browns-fan said:

You're missing out BB is the shit.

besides mad men, the walking dead and hell on wheels.

@brownfish said:

I want to set the record straight...i am the one that put the dextroamphetamine and amphetamine in Joe Haden's drink this summer. I apologize and Joe did not know about it as a lied and told him it was just a rum and coke. I will take full responsibility if the league needs to suspend me from attending multiple games i shall comply as long as someone hooks me up with DirecTV Sunday ticket as I signed a 2 year with DISH and got screwed over since now i can no longer watch Breaking Bad as this was where i got the idea of cooking some good stuff for Joe and the Gang.

You're missing out BB is the shit.