@browns149 said:

Moxie is a very nice restaurant over in Beachwood,Ohio

We can give them a grandfather clause:)

@brownrebel said:

First of all, I'm starting a motion to put a moratorium on the word "moxie." This word has no place in a football discussion (can my duck hunting dog have moxie) and it sounds like a word a soccer announcer would have invented.

Second, if weeden averages 40 passes a game, a guarantee we lose 11 games. Did ya'll whiners forget about t rich already (please pump your brakes po G.) We win 35 to 7 and I have to read this drivel? Please tell me ya'll are steeler fans or something of that ilk.

Staircase wit: has it occurred to ya'll that they may be auditioning/evaluating montario for his job?

Moxie is a very nice restaurant over in Beachwood,Ohio

@king-ghoolie-lives said:

Dude,

nobody has been more negative than me, but 35 -10? WTF? I don't care if was a picnic game, 35 - 10 against another professional team........ and WITHOUT the next great Browns running back in the game?

And to boot, Lerner is history? Soon Holmgren and company wil be, too. Man, if you can't get excited about THIS Browns era, you need shock therapy.

Go Browns ---------- 11 and 5 Baby.!

If we don't do well this year Holmgren could be gone but I seriously doubt Heckert goes anywhere. But if the Browns really do go 11-5 this year like you now think then Holmgren and Co. won't be going anywhere. And you originally stated the Browns would go 2-14 so who knows if you will change your mind yet again..

@king-ghoolie-lives said:

Dude,

nobody has been more negative than me, but 35 -10? WTF? I don't care if was a picnic game, 35 - 10 against another professional team........ and WITHOUT the next great Browns running back in the game?

And to boot, Lerner is history? Soon Holmgren and company wil be, too. Man, if you can't get excited about THIS Browns era, you need shock therapy.

Go Browns ---------- 11 and 5 Baby.!

Someone stole Ghoolie and switched him with this positive non-hating individual...i'm a lil nervous...

@king-ghoolie-lives said:

Dude,

nobody has been more negative than me, but 35 -10? WTF? I don't care if was a picnic game, 35 - 10 against another professional team........ and WITHOUT the next great Browns running back in the game?

And to boot, Lerner is history? Soon Holmgren and company wil be, too. Man, if you can't get excited about THIS Browns era, you need shock therapy.

Go Browns ---------- 11 and 5 Baby.!

you r hte man.

all in all though i was impressed.

fuckin packers went all in on fixing their defense and they still looked like shit.

He has played three quarters in the NFL.

Zombo

Second, if weeden averages 40 passes a game, a guarantee we lose 11 games. Did ya'll whiners forget about t rich already (please pump your brakes po G.) We win 35 to 7 and I have to read this drivel? Please tell me ya'll are steeler fans or something of that ilk.

Staircase wit: has it occurred to ya'll that they may be auditioning/evaluating montario for his job?

@soju said:

The last thing we need is a strong armed dump off QB. Where's the passes down field? I'm already seeing where this season is going: Dump off 5 yards and hope a WR, RB, TE can make something out of it.

Then you watch the Bengals and Dalton is chucking it 50 yards down the field to Green fora TD. Look, we don't need Weeds to chuck, but we need him to stand strong in the pocket, survey the field and execute a nice, fastball down the field 15-30 yards. I didn't see much of that, and that's what's potentially separating us from being good and taking the next step and being stuck in the doldrums where we have been. We need the moxy and the confidence that chunks of yardage can give through making good passes down field. Not the dump offs.

It was the hand off to Hardesty show out there last night, too, and I don't think it did any good to a rookie QB that needed all the reps he could get. Browns offensive play calling was inept, failing again.

Seriously? We're reverting to this shit already?

@soju said:

The last thing we need is a strong armed dump off QB. Where's the passes down field? I'm already seeing where this season is going: Dump off 5 yards and hope a WR, RB, TE can make something out of it.

Then you watch the Bengals and Dalton is chucking it 50 yards down the field to Green fora TD. Look, we don't need Weeds to chuck, but we need him to stand strong in the pocket, survey the field and execute a nice, fastball down the field 15-30 yards. I didn't see much of that, and that's what's potentially separating us from being good and taking the next step and being stuck in the doldrums where we have been. We need the moxy and the confidence that chunks of yardage can give through making good passes down field. Not the dump offs.

It was the hand off to Hardesty show out there last night, too, and I don't think it did any good to a rookie QB that needed all the reps he could get. Browns offensive play calling was inept, failing again.

This Soju troll is a closet Steeler fan. Negative about anything. This is preseason DOUCHE BAG. I guess the Packers must really suck.

@soju said:

The last thing we need is a strong armed dump off QB. Where's the passes down field? I'm already seeing where this season is going: Dump off 5 yards and hope a WR, RB, TE can make something out of it.

Then you watch the Bengals and Dalton is chucking it 50 yards down the field to Green fora TD. Look, we don't need Weeds to chuck, but we need him to stand strong in the pocket, survey the field and execute a nice, fastball down the field 15-30 yards. I didn't see much of that, and that's what's potentially separating us from being good and taking the next step and being stuck in the doldrums where we have been. We need the moxy and the confidence that chunks of yardage can give through making good passes down field. Not the dump offs.

It was the hand off to Hardesty show out there last night, too, and I don't think it did any good to a rookie QB that needed all the reps he could get. Browns offensive play calling was inept, failing again.

I agree.. but remember it's preseason. All the teams in our conference will be watching us and we don't want to show everything in pre-season. If this continues into the regular season, we can revisit this thread.

you need a knitting circle....